This is just to give you guys/gals a heads up on what you can expect if you plan on buying a night owl pass. The first time I used my night owl pass my buddy and I hauled all of our gear, kayak, and cooler pretty far to fish the spot we wanted. About 11pm a ranger comes up on a 4 wheeler and tells us the park is closed and we have to leave. I tell him I have a night owl pass, but forgot to put it in my windshield. He says we have to leave anyway and complains that he should be home already. I ask him if I can just walk to the truck and show him the pass, he says no leave. After an hour of dragging everything back to the truck I show him my night owl pass, fishing license and I am totally legal, yet we still have to leave because he is upset he isn't at home already. So, last night I am fishing solo, again I unload, set all of my gear up, and put the night owl pass in the window thinking I am good to go.......wrong. At about 10pm the mosquitos were killing me, so I put my tent cot out to hide from the mosquito's. Well, about 10:40pm I see this little old man walking around looking at my rods, I am laughing to myself thinking it must be some drunk guy from the pier, and I would just watch to see if he tries to take anything. Finally, he just stops and is staring right at me and I say can I help you. I hear a female voice call me by my name and ask me to come out. She says there is no camping on the beach, and I tell her I was hiding from mosquito's, but I would put the tent cot away. She proceeds to check all of my bags and cooler. All she finds is water and bait. She asks me how, when, and where I caught the flounder in my cooler. I tell her 3 times its a stingray. Then she tells me to go to my truck, takes my license and goes to the vehicle. After 10 minutes she comes back asking me if I have any weapons in my truck. By this time I am pissed, but still respectful. She tells me if she comes back and my eyes are closed while in my chair that is camping and I would be kicked out. These are my first 2 experiences with my night owl pass!!! It's bad enough I paid $25 for a park pass and $30 for the night owl, but to be messed with both times is ridiculous. It is not worth it, so if you plan on fishing at Pickens at night, be prepared to get messed with!
Ft Pickens Night Owl Pass = HARASSMENT!
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I was certified there in the early 80's.
You cannot spearfish on any beach that is accessible to the public. That's around the jetties and old pier. That's why we would hide a pole spear at the rock jetties and leave it there all year, underwater.
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If you want, you can represent yourself in front of the U.S. Supreme Court.
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If I did my job like the government does theirs I would have no friends, freedom and be in a lot of debt. Are they there to "serve and protect" too or just be another entity that tells us when, where and how to do something? They need to be picking up trash or doing something useful while they are on the clock. Same goes to law-enforcement when they are on the side of the road at a construction site. They need to earn MY money just like my boss makes me earn his. There is always somebody else that wants that job more than you is what he tells me. Oh wait maybe that is why we are over $16 TRILLION dollars in debt. Nobody gives a f-ck!! JANUARY 20th:thumbsup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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Well said...
I agree with the comments that Fort Pickens is going down hill.
We are out here camping in the RV and these sites are terrible. No shade, They paved the sites but just enough for you RV to fit so when you come down the steps you have a nice foot drop off because they were too cheap to black top properly. You pay $20 a night to camp and then you have to pay another $8 to get in the gate. I would think the camping pass would be good enough. We left out the gate today and then just to get harassed coming back in even though we have all these receipts and camping passes.
The Astronomy Club went well and had a good turn out last night except for the idiots at the gate not letting people in and causing a long line because they are too stupid to help themselves.
But hey that's are Govt...
We will not be going back ever again to camp at Fort Pickens.
That's why we would hide a pole spear at the rock jetties and leave it there all year, underwater.
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That's funny & cool coming from a Senior member!
This thread needs to be kept going.
So what about it Mr. Rangers? How is it out there in 2013?
Are ya keeping our Manatee hugging friends happy at OUR park?
ELMO & EYE sure pulled some big'en's out of 3 mile hole!
P.S. As long as I have lived here, the most human attacks by sharks have accrued @ Langdon beach. F.Y.I. peoples........
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That's funny & cool coming from a Senior member!
This thread needs to be kept going.
So what about it Mr. Rangers? How is it out there in 2013?
Are ya keeping our Manatee hugging friends happy at OUR park?
ELMO & EYE sure pulled some big'en's out of 3 mile hole!
P.S. As long as I have lived here, the most human attacks by sharks have accrued @ Langdon beach. F.Y.I. peoples........
Had a Park Ranger do this 1 time. While driving to the Fort 1 night. Head lights coming at us were on Bright the whole way. The closer they got, The brighter they was. Once within say a 100yrds while we r flashing back to get them to dim,,,, The Blue lights came on. We were pulled over for ,,,, Flashing our headlights. Got ticketed for it. What was we goona do. We were young & was told to shut up. Never forgot that 1.:thumbdown:
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Hey you are not alone in Florida. I live in Tenn now and the rangers are the same there. It's as if thier primary directive is to keep us off our land. All they want to do is puff out thier chests, complain about your presence and write fines. I went to court here over a fine (no violation commited) and just to make a point. The Magistrate was sick of this particular ranger and she ended up being sent out west. Let thier bosses know...sometimes it does some good.
Hey you are not alone in Florida. I live in Tenn now and the rangers are the same there. It's as if thier primary directive is to keep us off our land. All they want to do is puff out thier chests, complain about your presence and write fines. I went to court here over a fine (no violation commited) and just to make a point. The Magistrate was sick of this particular ranger and she ended up being sent out west. Let thier bosses know...sometimes it does some good.
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Phony bomb scares can get you (1) jail time or (2) shot! Be careful out there! JMHO C2
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This harassment has gone on for a few years now. It seems that the people in charge would have awakened to smell the coffee and done something about it by now.
Where there's smoke; there's fire! These people aren't making this up! JMHO C2
This harassment has gone on for a few years now. It seems that the people in charge would have awakened to smell the coffee and done something about it by now.
Where there's smoke; there's fire! These people aren't making this up! JMHO C2
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I'm not sure i understand about your comoments about law enforcement at construction site. Please explain what you were referring to. I've road construction for meany years with no complaint. They are off duty officers working side jobs being paid by the contractor and doing what the contractor asks the officer to do!lil'skeet said:
That is nuts! Man, sorry to hear you've had such bad luck with that. I was considering buying the night owl pass to fish sharks there but after reading that I'm kind of hesitant to do so.. Haha. Hopefully you don't experience any more misfortunes like that!
YES SIR, Mr. SharkNut!
Elmo was the Man! I saw him get stripped on a 16/0 @ Johnson beach one night & we were pouring water on that reel! Sure wish we could have seen that fish!
Elmo was working on a book when he died. I wish I had more pictures.
Last time I talked with Roddy we were talking about the book.Roddy has a lot of his stuff & we need to get it put out!
Elmo was just great to be around & so many stories that he told me. I remember talking about fishing here in the 30's.
I sure miss Elmo & his shark painted van with the bone-head freezer he had in the back of that thing.
So many people that I fished with like "Slim" & others that I can't remember their real names.
I saw the Hammerhead(1000+lb) Roddy caught around 81.
Would have been a world record if he hadn't had parachute cord on his reel. That's Roddy for Ya-he didn't care because he knows what he has caught.
I never was as lucky as those guys-but I had my moments.
Ernie Polk has to be the king with that Mako he landed from the beach:thumbsup:
You know how there can be rivalry shark fishing, but every time I fished with Ernie he would run my baits out for me. Ernie stuck with it & I didn't.
Ernie deserves it because he is a cool fisherman just like Roddy & ELMO!
Yes Sir I'm sure we have fished together! I remember faces better than names, but ELMO will always be @ the top of my list!
I am a true fisherman named GILLMAN.
Thanks for remembering.
R.I.P. ELMO
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Elmo was the Man! I saw him get stripped on a 16/0 @ Johnson beach one night & we were pouring water on that reel! Sure wish we could have seen that fish!
Elmo was working on a book when he died. I wish I had more pictures.
Last time I talked with Roddy we were talking about the book.Roddy has a lot of his stuff & we need to get it put out!
Elmo was just great to be around & so many stories that he told me. I remember talking about fishing here in the 30's.
I sure miss Elmo & his shark painted van with the bone-head freezer he had in the back of that thing.
So many people that I fished with like "Slim" & others that I can't remember their real names.
I saw the Hammerhead(1000+lb) Roddy caught around 81.
Would have been a world record if he hadn't had parachute cord on his reel. That's Roddy for Ya-he didn't care because he knows what he has caught.
I never was as lucky as those guys-but I had my moments.
Ernie Polk has to be the king with that Mako he landed from the beach:thumbsup:
You know how there can be rivalry shark fishing, but every time I fished with Ernie he would run my baits out for me. Ernie stuck with it & I didn't.
Ernie deserves it because he is a cool fisherman just like Roddy & ELMO!
Yes Sir I'm sure we have fished together! I remember faces better than names, but ELMO will always be @ the top of my list!
I am a true fisherman named GILLMAN.
Thanks for remembering.
R.I.P. ELMO
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Waylaid - R.I.P Elmo - I remember him talking about getting that 16/0 stripped. Probably listened to that story a dozen or more times and enjoyed it more every time I heard it. And you got to see that hammer Roddy caught! Those are once in a lifetime moments my friend.:thumbsup: I only got to hear about them. But I count myself dam lucky that I was fortunate enough to know those people and fish with them. And thank you for remembering! There was a magic to that time that only those that experienced it can know.
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