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hahaha thats not us we mess with baitfish andother bay fish but we use per seins and castnets ,my buddy that catches bait down here showed me that video but when you listen to what the guy is saying in the video it kinda makes since
 

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yeah it does. i was thinking the same thing. about the video what do they do just drop it to the bottom and leave it for say 20 mins. how do they determine how long to leave it down. looks like every hook had a fish on it. anybody ?
 

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A couple of friends of ours say the drop down for about 30 minutes thats probally what they are doing on that video
 

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The OLE Getting It Done.

I worked on a commercial boat "back in the day" You string up Snapper on everyhook. It would only take a minute or two to string up a bandit. I'm sure it is the same now, if not better, as far as being able to string'em up. I doubt they arte leaving the bandits in the water for over 10 minutes. I'm not defending anyone, just stating my experience while commercial fishing for reef fish. Red Snapper are varousious(sp) eaters, we all know that. It did not take us long to get astringer full of RS.
 

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Great post Tony! They catch snapper like you catch cigs... you just have to work harder. Has Austin been a sweet nice young man... or just the same smart alec... LOL!!!

Jim from Southwind Marina/Emerald Coast
 

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The OLE getting It Done.

I've seen anywhere from 10-30 hooks on single backbone. Backbone would be 200lb. test while the snoops would be 2 80lb. testlines twisted together. My friend would fish 20 hook rig while I fished 10 hook rig. The commercial fishing I did was short lived. I didn't do it for long. I really was green as heck as far fishing in the Gulf.At that time I knew 1/100ths. of what I know now.I did learn how to bait a circle hook with maximum results. I have been sold on circle hooks ever since. I have some 10 hook rigs made up now. I don't fish them though.
 

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A recreational angler gets to keep two fish while this raping of the ocean goes on. Just imagine the effect on the reef population when a couple of commercial boats hit the same spot regularly with the number of fish shown in this video taken. How can the "experts" say that the red snapper is endangered and let this go on? Did this video look like the conservation of an endangered species?
 

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Years ago I volunteered to go on a commercial trip.....for free...... The deckhand was ready because I didn't cut into his percntage and he knew I could fish......it was ok with the capt....

When they told me more and more about their techniques, I decided to decline..... You can call it harvesting but don't call it fishing...... about as sporting as shooting a pig...............
 

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redfish99999 (1/24/2010)Years ago I volunteered to go on a commercial trip.....for free...... The deckhand was ready because I didn't cut into his percntage and he knew I could fish......it was ok with the capt....

When they told me more and more about their techniques, I decided to decline..... You can call it harvesting but don't call it fishing...... about as sporting as shooting a pig...............
This is why comercial snapper fish needs to end. The sooner the beter. These fish are of a much greater value as a sport fish. All those charter baots should and couldbe out fishing all summer, not just for 6 weeks. Write a letter to your congress men in support of makeng Red snapper a game fish.
 

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Thanks for sharing. I did learn a couple things. 1st. Rec fishermen is the reason for the snapper shortages. 2nd, Were the reason for all fish shortages. Snapper is in trouble? Were in trouble!Pompano from an oil rig commercially? There in trouble! I feel so bad for depleting fish stock recreationally! Kiss My AS$ NMFS!You Crooked NAZI FACIST!
 

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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><A name=OLE_LINK2></A><A name=OLE_LINK1><SPAN style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK2">I wish my 401K was as in as much danger as the red snapper. I could retire today!! </A>
 

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Just a thought starter:

Imagine you are not a fisherman, but just a citizen interested in the economic impact on the community. Let's consider the economic impact of commercial verses recreational fishing. Look at the number of fish taken in the video. Many of the guys on this forum are boat owners so you can judge the amount of money spent by they guys in the video. Then, think of the impact on the economy of recreational anglers catching the same number of fish, either by guys who own their own boat or by people fishing on a charter boat or head boat. Which has the greater economic impact on the economy? Red Snapper needs to be a sport fish and the commercial harvest needs to end.
 

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No, red snapper doesnt have to be a sport fish, It doesnt have to be limited like it is! I guarantee you when we, "Rec"could keep 5 fish, Those commercial guys were still Busting their asses! We dropping a single bait down to thier 10. Its a lie to say thier introuble & allow only commercial harvest ofthem! Total BS! Allow 1 hook at a time & see what happens or Allow Rec persons to keep 5 Up to a 28 " max limit! How hard is that? It is criminal Not to allow rec fishermen not to keep at least 3 to 5 slot fish! Year round! Someones lying thier AS$eS off.
 

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Growing up we had a neighbor that fished commercially part-time(25-30yrs ago). He fished 15 -20 hook rigs on 1800 lb test cable on hydraulic bicycle rigs and didn't fish in less than 200' of water. Yes that's 1800 lb test. Big grouper would come up after being pulled out of the rock with gashes all down their sides. They would bait numerous rigs before hitting a spot. When they came up the whole rig came off and into a box, fish and all. On went a new rig and back down to the bottom. The fish were then gutted and iced when things slowed or when they ran to another spot. I too think rec fisherman are worth more than than commercials in the economic world. But please don't make emotional decisions based on a video or a few pictures. I've seen negative comments on pictures showing limits of fish under today's regs. That's what the eco-nuts do when they show a picture of a "helpless" seal or dolphin or POLAR BEAR. It's bogus. Remember people are still vilified for keeping a billfish in a kill tournament when those fish represent a miniscule percentage of billfish killed. And the economic impact is enormous. (Yes I know release tournaments are also very economically viable) And if you feel disdain when you see that billfish hanging on a scale(probably destined to feed people at a shelter), you're the emotional crowd I'm addressing.

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