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Here's some up to date news....
  1. <LI>the final paperwork is at the FWC awaiting approval and funding for the Archie Glover Dredge Project. Should happen soon and the project will go out to bid!</LI><LI>We will make application to the FWCfor a REEF GRANT to be deployed in the nearshore east zone!</LI><LI>The NAVARRE PIER RUBBLE should be deployed in the nearshore zone very soon, within the next couple of weeks!</LI>
 

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If the spot to deploy the rubble is still undetermined I would recommend putting it directly on top of the spot that was put down a few years ago that's about 3/4s of a mile SW of the three barges. The reason being, that spot has covered completely and the same will happen to this rubble after we have a few years of storms. If it's put on top of the submerged stuff it may delay the sinking further. Another spot to consider is the old Casino rubble that has also sunk below the sand or on top of the three barges. Look at the condition of the reef balls that were put down just last year they are already busted up somewhat and sinking in the sand from just one year of storms.
 

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2tofly (3/3/2010)Is the project to dredge from the AG boatramp and into the bay? What other details can ya'll provide?

Mark
Just a guess, but I'd bet they'll be dredging from the mouth out into the bay a couple hundred yards. No sense dredging from the ramp to the mouth....it's plenty deep.
 

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Thanks Flounderpounder. I was wondering if they would ever widen the little channel. Anyone elseknow anything?

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For Archie Glover, All that could be permitted was to re-dredge the channel only as it was before.

As for how to deploy the rubble, we are restricted by the permit to no higher than 8ft from the bottom asI understand it. We (RT)asked for a variance, or a more liberal interpretation, but his request wasrefused.

We do the best we can with what we have to work with; & we are making a significant impact in the Nearshore zone in a very short period of time.

And this additional rubble should have a quick impact on the area.

Now if the weather will cooperate, maybe we could enjoy some fishing!
 

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FishinFool (3/3/2010)Sure would like to see them use some tax dollars and dredge Oriole Beach ramp. :doh But that would be too productive! :doh
I alwaysget a kick out ofto hearing from PFFmembers that have no clue, and havenot been a part of the process and also don't understand the financing, the permitting, andnever attend the meetings!

Iwill be happy to explain to you why we can't do what you want at Oriole Beach, the same ramp thatI negotiated a land deal that more than doubled the parking!

Come to a meeting, get in formed, get involed, and THEN if you don't like results, BITCH!
 

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FishinFool (3/3/2010)Sure would like to see them use some tax dollars and dredge Oriole Beach ramp. :doh But that would be too productive! :doh
I alwaysget a kick out ofto hearing from PFFmembers that have no clue, and havenot been a part of the process and also don't understand the financing, the permitting, andnever attend the meetings!

Iwill be happy to explain to you why we can't do what you want at Oriole Beach, the same ramp thatI negotiated a land deal that more than doubled the parking!

Come to a meeting, get in formed, get involed, and THEN if you don't like results, BITCH!
Sorry Bay Pirate, didn't mean to rub your the wrong way. You are right. I need to understand financing, permitting, get involved and attend meetings to realize that I still can't launch my 20ft cuddy cabin at that public ramp. :banghead
 

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Bay Pirate, I'm Not bitching and if you deployed the rubble on the spots I suggested they would not be on inch higher than deploying them on flat bottom. The reason being all the suggested spots with the exception of the barges is flat level with the sand. I just thought that the rubble present below the sand would help prevent the new stuff from being buried in the sand as fast as before. Think about it!
 

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Jeff, as always, great job and I thank you for your efforts and the MAC as a whole.



If you have concerns about how the MAC operates and why they do what they do, then please attend and get involved.



You'll get great migraines and realize that getting done what they are able to do is pretty much a miracle.
 

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Fishinfool,

It's obviousyou don't understand theissues!We try hard to keep our ramps in the best condition they can be in, ie: last yearjjam pm'ed about a launchproblem there that we could fix,and I had it handled in less than 2 weeks.

I too wish we could dredge Oriole Beach ramp, the DEP will not allow it; and it would only do any good if it was dredged all the way out through the "Grass Beds" to deep water, or your boat would just be stuck in a deep water whole next to the dock with no-where to go. It'll never be permitted by the DEPin our lifetime!

If you have a deeper draft boat, you need to launch somewhere else, its unfortunate, but that's just the way it is. If you want to use Oriole Beach, You just have to pay attention to the tides and time of year and adjust your time of usage to coordinate when you can use it.

Before anyone starts on theNavarre Beach Ramp, we are aware of the problem and are taking steps to replace the damaged areas.

Happy Fishing, and come on warm weather!



(Note: this is a prime example ofwhy I rarely post anymore, even a Public Service Message gets derailed with BS!)
 

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Dang! I just posted areply and got the dreaded message error but it's worth retyping.

First off, I have the utmost respect for BP in the way he handled the problem last year concerning the OB ramp. I respondedmuch like the poster about the OB ramp in regards to to thepurchase oflandfor a "useless ramp IMO". BP responded tomy reply and after a brief PM, BP had a crew correct the problem. Ialso encourage all to get involved with the advisory comittee. They do great work and depend on the input of theusers of our local water ways.

BP, Please don't get discourage by the ill informed na-sayers preventing updated post of theAdvisory Committee acccomplishments. If they were aware of the VOLUNTEER work you all do, I'm sure they wouldbuy you a beverage of your choice. Hit me up next seminar at Flounders. Be an honor...

OB Problem: 5ft drop off at the end of the ramp and 1ft depth at the end of the westloading pier.Launch boat but no where to go...:banghead

BP explained the restrictions of dredging relating to the grass beds but ensured they would removed as much sand allowed by the state and back filled the wash out area with aggregate. Done with in 2 weeks! Awesome!!!!!

Ilaunched my 22 WA many times last year after BP's project and yes, you need to monitor tides but during the summer months, OB launch is very dependable. I have not been down there lately to see if prop wash has recreated the problem but if it has the committee will send the crew down and work with in state laws to correct the problem...Wish we could get the same project like Sanders Beach last year, but I guess the grass beds over this way is more of a deterrent.

Thanks again BP for you service.... :bowdown

Jimmy :letsdrink
 
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