wrightackle (2/5/2010)Mustad 3184 9/0 on the 3-6 ounceand the short shank 34185 on the 1 1/2 - 2ounce size. The lures on the bottom have the heavy big bend gamakatsu 3/0.They are 1/2 and 3/4 of an ounce. Choppedliver you are probably right about the fish not caring about how pretty the jig is. I have seen Roddy Pate fishing with a ling lure that only had three tentacles left on it. He would make everyone else look bad. I do think the glow factor might make a little diference jigging for grouper.