i was snorkeling under the pier today and it looks like every one is fishing in the wrong spot i was maby 1/4 to half way out and i saw probly 20 or more big sheepheads around the pillers. tryed to call out to people fishn but they didnt pat me any mind. also there were tons and tons of baby flounder about as big as an egg. also a really big school of some other fish i couldnt really see to well there were all silver about a foot long and slender probly 50-80 in the school. just figured some one might get some use out of this post.
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I'm thinkin the same thing. How'd he get away with that?
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He must have stayed on the west side I guess.
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with this picture from another post of the baby flounder....must be something legit to his post
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with this picture from another post of the baby flounder....must be something legit to his post
im still fairly few to saltwater fish and this area in general i was close to the shore and was mostly on the right side of the pier looking twards the end of it.i stay away from people fishing, i try to not get in any ones way and that was me with the flag tied to my belt...
besides the obvious hook hazard what is the danger i stay well far away from anyone fishing so i dont scare the fish or come close to there lines. and if there were more then a hand full of people fishing on there i wouldnt dive it. and as far as legality i havnt seen anywhere that it is illegal ive talked to people at the local dive shops the life guards and the park rangers in the area and none of them said ther was anything wrong with it. im not spearfishing or anything.
try it in 2 weeks and your almost guaranteed to get more than a few ling jigs slammed at you. a hard slung 3-4oz jigs to your head could kill you. i have seen it send a few ppl to the hospital. i may be wrong about it being illegal but either way its not very smart.
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hey saw this in the PNJ. I think they are going to start enforcing the law about "not swimming under the gulf pier"
http://www.pnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20103050316
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article by Jamie Page
The new beach ordinance allows for enforcement of:
n Diving/jumping off Gulf, Quietwater or any public pier.
n Re-entering the Gulf of Mexico after being rescued.
n Fishing, shark fishing, spear fishing in public swimming areas.
n Operating any non-motorized boat/kayak in swimming areas.
n Throwing hard balls or objects or playing football, volleyball or baseball in crowded conditions.
n Digging deep holes or tunneling in the sand in congested areas.
n Getting on lifeguard towers.
n Swimming in the Gulf during dangerous surf conditions when red flags or double red flags are posted.
n Swimming after drinking alcohol but not yet intoxicated to the point of lawful arrest.
n Swimming well offshore outside the designated swimming areas -- in the Gulf or Sound.
n Kite-boarding.
n Skim-boarding dangerously close to bathers.
n Swimming under or around the Gulf Pier.
n Placing large tents in front of lifeguard stands, obstructing the ability of lifeguards to observe the beach and water.
The next time a Pensacola Beach lifeguard tells someone to stop shark fishing in a public swimming area, law enforcement will have the authority to actually write the angler a citation.
Until now, rules like this one have been more like strong suggestions, but no actual ordinance has existed to enforce it.
Escambia County commissioners Thursday unanimously approved an ordinance giving public safety officials authority to enforce beach rules and ticket those who disobey.
"This is an ordinance so that we will be able to tell people they need to stay out of the Gulf because they could die, or stop people from shark fishing around swimmers," Santa Rosa Island Authority Executive Director Buck Lee said. "They tell us to go fly a kite. So now we can call the Sheriff's Office."
The beach rules most commonly violated include, re-entering the Gulf after being rescued, swimming under or around the Gulf Pier, and jumping or diving off the Quietwater and Gulf piers.
"... We are protecting people from their own ignorance," Commissioner Wilson Robertson said. "If the authorities will be able to say you are risking your life and need to get out of the water, then this is going to save a life and it's worth it."
There may be an exception with the ordinance.
For example, rough surf draws surfers to the Gulf. Surfers will be allowed to remain in the water during rough surf ? because they have flotation devices attached to them ? as long as they appear to beach authorities to be competent surfers, Pensacola Beach Public Safety Supervisor Bob West said.
The ordinance, which takes effect immediately, gives authorities the latitude to first warn the violator. If the violation continues, a deputy will be called in to cite the person.
"I am no big fan of large government or proliferation of government rules, but I think from what I have seen out here it would greatly increase our ability to protect the public and ensure everyone has a good time at the beach," Greenwood said.
"Most people obey the rules, but there will always be some people who will do things that conflict with other people trying to have a good beach day."
http://www.pnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20103050316
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article by Jamie Page
The new beach ordinance allows for enforcement of:
n Diving/jumping off Gulf, Quietwater or any public pier.
n Re-entering the Gulf of Mexico after being rescued.
n Fishing, shark fishing, spear fishing in public swimming areas.
n Operating any non-motorized boat/kayak in swimming areas.
n Throwing hard balls or objects or playing football, volleyball or baseball in crowded conditions.
n Digging deep holes or tunneling in the sand in congested areas.
n Getting on lifeguard towers.
n Swimming in the Gulf during dangerous surf conditions when red flags or double red flags are posted.
n Swimming after drinking alcohol but not yet intoxicated to the point of lawful arrest.
n Swimming well offshore outside the designated swimming areas -- in the Gulf or Sound.
n Kite-boarding.
n Skim-boarding dangerously close to bathers.
n Swimming under or around the Gulf Pier.
n Placing large tents in front of lifeguard stands, obstructing the ability of lifeguards to observe the beach and water.
The next time a Pensacola Beach lifeguard tells someone to stop shark fishing in a public swimming area, law enforcement will have the authority to actually write the angler a citation.
Until now, rules like this one have been more like strong suggestions, but no actual ordinance has existed to enforce it.
Escambia County commissioners Thursday unanimously approved an ordinance giving public safety officials authority to enforce beach rules and ticket those who disobey.
"This is an ordinance so that we will be able to tell people they need to stay out of the Gulf because they could die, or stop people from shark fishing around swimmers," Santa Rosa Island Authority Executive Director Buck Lee said. "They tell us to go fly a kite. So now we can call the Sheriff's Office."
The beach rules most commonly violated include, re-entering the Gulf after being rescued, swimming under or around the Gulf Pier, and jumping or diving off the Quietwater and Gulf piers.
"... We are protecting people from their own ignorance," Commissioner Wilson Robertson said. "If the authorities will be able to say you are risking your life and need to get out of the water, then this is going to save a life and it's worth it."
There may be an exception with the ordinance.
For example, rough surf draws surfers to the Gulf. Surfers will be allowed to remain in the water during rough surf ? because they have flotation devices attached to them ? as long as they appear to beach authorities to be competent surfers, Pensacola Beach Public Safety Supervisor Bob West said.
The ordinance, which takes effect immediately, gives authorities the latitude to first warn the violator. If the violation continues, a deputy will be called in to cite the person.
"I am no big fan of large government or proliferation of government rules, but I think from what I have seen out here it would greatly increase our ability to protect the public and ensure everyone has a good time at the beach," Greenwood said.
"Most people obey the rules, but there will always be some people who will do things that conflict with other people trying to have a good beach day."
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The pier fishing folks think they own the pier.
As stated they will run down the pier just to throw a jig at you, read,listen and you will hear what class acts they are.
NOT ALL
oke but 99.9% of them, and if you read the forum you will hear of someone getting a little to close and the jigs will fly.
But I think the new "no retreat law" will be used this year by someone, and the flare guns will come out.
NOW BEFORE YOU GUYS START READ THE LAW.
If your life is threatened and you are in true fear of your life and/or the lives of your family, you can use deadly force and do not need to turn and run; PER: The Florida Supreme Court.
The threat does not apply only to your home and/or personnel property, but out in public and on public property.
Having someone throw a jig at you is by law a threat to harm and or cause of great bodily harm and or death.
The pier fishing folks think they own the pier.
As stated they will run down the pier just to throw a jig at you, read,listen and you will hear what class acts they are.
NOT ALL
oke but 99.9% of them, and if you read the forum you will hear of someone getting a little to close and the jigs will fly.But I think the new "no retreat law" will be used this year by someone, and the flare guns will come out.
NOW BEFORE YOU GUYS START READ THE LAW.
If your life is threatened and you are in true fear of your life and/or the lives of your family, you can use deadly force and do not need to turn and run; PER: The Florida Supreme Court.
The threat does not apply only to your home and/or personnel property, but out in public and on public property.
Having someone throw a jig at you is by law a threat to harm and or cause of great bodily harm and or death.
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For the that do not no!!
The Florida no-retreat bill, which provides that a person need not retreat from an attack, may "stand his ground" and use deadly force if he reasonably believes he or another person is threatened by death or serious physical injury. (The retreat requirement imposes a restriction on self-defense: in addition to a threat of death or serious injury, the defender had to show they had tried to retreat, or that retreat exposed them to greater danger. Court decisions had already removed that requirement within the defender's home or business).
Last April 30, 2009, near Wahneta, Florida, Ladon "Jamie" Jones fatally shot 21-year old Nikki McCormick. McCormick was involved in an attempt to steal Jones' SUV. According to an affidavit released by the Polk County Sheriff?s Office, ones opened fire as the SUV approached him. Because of Florida's no retreat law, Jones will not be facing charges for her death.
According to CNN, http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/0...-shooting-for-homeowner-no-retreat-law-cited/,
"Authorities said Jones is protected by Florida?s ?no retreat? law, which gives him the right to use lethal force if he reasonably believes his life is in danger."
The Florida no-retreat bill, which provides that a person need not retreat from an attack, may "stand his ground" and use deadly force if he reasonably believes he or another person is threatened by death or serious physical injury. (The retreat requirement imposes a restriction on self-defense: in addition to a threat of death or serious injury, the defender had to show they had tried to retreat, or that retreat exposed them to greater danger. Court decisions had already removed that requirement within the defender's home or business).
Last April 30, 2009, near Wahneta, Florida, Ladon "Jamie" Jones fatally shot 21-year old Nikki McCormick. McCormick was involved in an attempt to steal Jones' SUV. According to an affidavit released by the Polk County Sheriff?s Office, ones opened fire as the SUV approached him. Because of Florida's no retreat law, Jones will not be facing charges for her death.
According to CNN, http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/0...-shooting-for-homeowner-no-retreat-law-cited/,
"Authorities said Jones is protected by Florida?s ?no retreat? law, which gives him the right to use lethal force if he reasonably believes his life is in danger."
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