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If you guys haven't seen this, it's worth it. This came afetr the March to Washington on 24 Feb.

At the end of the hearing, Senator Lemieux offers to take NOAA fishing to prove there are plenty of Red snapper. Captain Bob Zales from Panmana city is mentioned as well.This is a good one.

http://www.charterfish.com/redsnapperfishing.html

Dr. Lubchenco of course statesthat recreational fishermen do not understand the red snapper issue. Meanwhile,the mean weight of red snapper retained by recreational anglers during the 2007 season was 3.4 pounds and that average weight increased to 4.07 pounds in 2008 and jumped to 5 pounds this past year....


We all need to write and thank Senator Lemieux and Bob Zales...

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I wonder if Dr. Lubchenco thinks Bob Shipp understands snapper.

I wonder if Dr. Lubchenco knows what the word "condescension" means. Dr. Lubchenco said in a memo last month that the problem was "perception".

My perception is that agenda driven "science" is a plague on this country that we need to be rid of.
 

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<P class=boldname>Kerry to fishermen: 'Lubchenco your friend'<P class=boldname><A name=jumptolegal jQuery1267823358538="92">Gloucester Daily Times</A><P class=boldname><STRONG class=storycredit>By Richard Gaines[/b]
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February 26, 2010 05:50 am

? <P class=nostyle>U.S. Sen. John Kerry is out of step with the majority of his Massachusetts colleagues when it comesto the solution of the fishing crisis that brought a large insurgency to Washington, D.C., earlier this week.<P class=text1>Nearly all Kerry's congressional colleagues with fishing communities in their districts have announced support for a partial rewrite of the Magnuson-Stevens Act that would eliminate a requirement that all overfished stocks be restored at the same moment.<P class=text1>Kerry has avoided hinting at his opinion on that initiative, which was the main reason for the gathering of at least 5,000 people from fishing communities on all three of the nation's coasts, Wednesday at the Capitol.<P class=text1>Massachusetts Congressmen Barney Frank, John Tierney, Michael Capuano and newly elected U.S. Sen Scott Brown have all announced their support of Flexibility in Rebuilding American Fisheries Act, a bill that would add flexibility to Magnuson. At the end of the rally, the Recreation Fishing Alliance, the demonstration's lead sponsor, said there were eight federal senators and 30 congressmen backing the bill.<P class=text1>Over the past year, an informal consensus has developed behind the need to add flexibility to Magnuson. The act's rigid rebuilding timeline, combined with tight catch limits, have threatened the survival of countless commercial and recreational fishermen. The rally was a demonstration of the unanimous belief in the need for flexibility.<P class=text1>Asked for a statement about his position on Magnuson, Kerry yesterday released a statement that said "there were clear problems facing the industry that needed solution."<P class=text1>"Yesterday I met with more than 50 Massachusetts fishermen who came to Washington to share what's happening to them and their families. They're getting whacked hard right now and it's wrong. They're absolutely right that there should be a moratorium on pending enforcement cases against fishermen and I share their concerns about the enforcement of federal regulations," he said in the statement. "Now I'm coordinating a meeting between fishermen and federal authorities to resolve these concerns as soon as humanly possible."<P class=text1>But he did not mention Magnuson directly or implicitly at a meeting with fishermen in his office immediately following the rally Wednesday. Kerry, according to participants in the meeting, professed his confidence in Jane Lubchenco, the Obama administration's administrator for the oceans and atmosphere, and said he was sure she would solve the fishermen's problems.<P class=text1>"Lubchenco is your friend," he is reported to have said to fishermen at the meeting.<P class=text1>Kerry barred the press from the gathering in his office but numerous participants reported that discussion to the Times. Many said they were shocked by Kerry's vote of confidence in Lubchenco, who has shunned direct contact with fishermen since her confirmation a year ago and instead has organized a political rollout of a new industry model for the nation's fisheries. Catch shares are highly controversial and deeply distrusted by the industry.<P class=text1>In contrast to Kerry, Republican Brown, at a similar meeting with protestors, conceded he had much to learn but said he saw the need to add flexibility to Magnuson. Brown also said that he was depending on state Sen. Bruce E. Tarr, R-Gloucester, with whom he served in the state Senate, to be his teacher on fisheries issues. Tarr has been a stalwart leader for the New England fishing industry for more than a decade.<P class=text1>Tina Jackson, a fisherman and leader of the Point Judith, R.I., fleet, was one of the visitors to Kerry's meeting. She said Kerry described Lubchenco, as "your friend, our friend."<P class=text1>"He (Kerry) is out touch," Jackson said.<P class=text1>"Jane, she is our friend. Right," said Jim Donofrio, a leader of the New Jersey-based Recreational Fishing Alliance which organized Wednesday's protest rally.<P class=text1>Kerry released the following statement to the Times yesterday in response to a request about his position on Magnuson.<P class=text1>"The status quo isn't working, and I say that as someone who is passionate about the environment, but who can see plainly that people are hurting and there are legitimate issues that have to be fixed.<P class=text1>"I'm going to be talking with fishing and environmental experts at the state and federal level to develop sustainable fisheries in New England and work with the New England delegation, as I always have, to keep federal assistance flowing into Massachusetts for our fishing families and to rebuild the fisheries."<P class=text1>Richard Gaines may be contacted at 978-283-7000 x3464 or [email protected].<P class=text1><P class=text1>http://www.gloucestertimes.com/punews/local_story_056221143.html
 

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You can tell the Senator wants to get something done, but it sounded like she was just saying what he wanted to hear and didn't really care bc the money is not there. thats just how I took it. Hopefully im wrong
 

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Dr. Lubchenco said that what we are seeing are lots of small fish so we think the fishery has recovered...she says the opposite. she says the small fish need to grow into big fish to reproduce.



Dr. Lubchenco own science says the fish have grown every year for the last three years. from 3.5lbs to 5lbs. so what the fisherman are seeing is just what the science is saying...we have recovered.



this lady is in charge?:banghead
 

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They all say that there were very large red snapper off the west coast of florida in the 1920s before the great fall of Red Snapper where the only ones that were left were off ofAlabama, Mississippi, La, and Texas. Hence all of the closeures and limited seasons the fish are back off the west coast of florida but they are young. The fishery managers we are dealing with want a breeding stock of a snapper over 15 years old THERE. Yes they know there are plenty of snapperhere as they told me its a no brainer.
 

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Googled this lady and found something interesting. According to Wikipedia she received the 8th annual Heinz Award for the environment. That's Heinz as in Teresa Heinz, Kerry's sugar momma. Understandable that he would call her a friend of fishermen, anything else and Teresa might have words with him or worse. You know a politician is lying to you when his/her lips are moving.
 
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