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I went to the Navarre pier opening today with a buddy to check it out...Nice pier and a whole lotta people..Saw a couple of good kings get caught....Now here's my dilemma...I have never fished before on any of the piers around here so I admit my pier etiquette is non-existant....But I fully realize I'll never be able to fish Navarre pier and not go to jail...lol......I was out there for about an hour and met some of the rudest a-holes on the planet....I didn't have any encounters personally directed at me but I saw some fishermen rip into some spectators about getting to close...I saw a 40ish yr old man tell a 65-70 yr woman that if she gets within 9 ft feet directly behind him ,she will get hooked and he willlaugh, just cut the line and say Bye !!!Then I saw4 other fisherman tell a couple that this was a fishing pier and they had the right of way on the railing over spectators.....The couple refused to move....The fishermen called the guy an asshole and said if his wife wasn't there,they would move him( We had his back if they jumped him).. There were several other encounters while I was spectating including a circle cast that hit a young girl in the back..luckily she wasn't hooked..just got slimed by the live bait...Most of the people out there fishingwere polite and I know there was a lotta spectators out there but whatever happened to politely asking someone to move...what exactly are the rules and regulations for fishing off a pier ?? also what is the rules on casting and watching your hooks??Because there were a lotta good casters that kept their tips high and had short release times which kept the hooks well away from everyone....but there were a lotta casters that just flung it back at head height 4-6 ft directly behind them without looking behind them...because if I get hooked with a huge treble hook, I can deal with that...but if heturns around running his mouth....lol...My wife will be bailing me outta jail... sorry, I had to vent....
 

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I'm no expert but... Wow that is some serious rudeness probably on everyones side. Just like when you were a kid fishing with your first pole you were told to be careful. No different I don't care if its a fishing pier, bridge, beach or on a boat with a buddy. You hook someone or thing, bad on you, you jacked up. Glad that no one got hurt tho
 

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those attitudes that you encountered are nothing new. whether its stuck up charter capt and deckhands that think they fish better than the rest of the planet (there's a few in PC @ my dock) or a pier rat, they are everywhere. I laugh at those folks that think that king fishing off of a pier or hanging up average snapper, ajs, and grouper think that they've accomplished something that the rest of the world isn't capable of. Most of the ones with those attitudes are people that have never experienced anything outside of their lame little bubble and think they know it all. If those same folks would actually listen to stuff they haven't experienced they could actually learn something. I would love for one of those pier rats to go down to the keys or the east coast and say something like "chofer" or "LY" or "black snapper" with their typical attitude.....
 

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Sorry you Had aBad Day on the new Pier,I heard it was Busy out there!! There are alot of Very Good Pier fisherman & Women that Know right from wrong and would be more than Glad To Help you out!! But You do have As^*(&%$ out there but think about it You Have Them Everywhere You Go!!!
 

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Thats exactly why I stay away from those long piers as well. I have a big problem with someone being that disrespectful over a damn fish. I have never seen or caught a fish worth going to jail over so I just keep my distance.
 

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If you dont like pier fishing, By all means dont go! It was Freaking Opening day! There were maybe 1000 people out there half fishing half walking. Its a rare day for that amount of people. Yes walkers & fisher's clash because no one wants to hook someone. But the onlookers dont pay attention to thier surroundings which fishers over a period of time loose their kool over. Same with boats. I will say once things calm down out there it will be an awsome pier. Most boat fishermen arent into the competition of pier fishing. Also there was free beer & food with a donation yesterday adding to the fun. If your not a pier fishermen, You wont understand. Once your used to boating it, You gennerally wont go on a pier. I have done both a long time. I love pier fishing because you can go for a hour or all day. No boat to refuel or clean up. No rough conditions. usually you can catch your bait while there. Again, If you dont like it, Dont come. If you love competitve fishing, Bring it on. Some of the best boat fishermen in this areacame from pier fishing. Its not a good thing to be rude to the walkers but alot of them have little to no clue. They dont understand how easy it is to get hooked. Some dont care. But you never hear the complaint about unrully lookers not moving out of the way do you? There's alot of pier fishermen who read this forum, We are proud of our style of fishing just as you are yours. lets have a tournament day, Baoters against the pierfishers. We'll wear a colered tag or something to tell the diffrence & lets see what happens. Who catches more fish? Could be fun! I know several boat fishers that are worthy.
 

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There was absolutely some disrespect coming from both fishermen and spectators. I was always taught to look behind me before I cast no matter what the situation.It was easy to tell that some pier fishermen know this unwritten rule andothers could give a damn. On the other side of things..people just dont seem to have the situational awareness that most do. So many people that were not fishing just seemed to have no clue of the dangers inherent on a "fishing " pier. Some folks just seem to be in their own little nucleus world where everthing revolves around themselves and no one else exists. I know there was alarge family of sightseers walking out to the end when I heard the "dad" say you think they would have a trashcan out here. So, since there werent any he and his family justunloadedtheir drink cans and junk food wrappers right there on the deck. I asked him why he didn't just hold on to it until he got to a trash can, and why the hell would you want to trash a beautiful place like this. I think by the tone of my voice he was afraid to answer me. F'in azzhole.

Overall a very nice experience for an opening day.
 

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standrew (05/06/2010)those attitudes that you encountered are nothing new. whether its stuck up charter capt and deckhands that think they fish better than the rest of the planet (there's a few in PC @ my dock) or a pier rat, they are everywhere. I laugh at those folks that think that king fishing off of a pier or hanging up average snapper, ajs, and grouper think that they've accomplished something that the rest of the world isn't capable of. Most of the ones with those attitudes are people that have never experienced anything outside of their lame little bubble and think they know it all. If those same folks would actually listen to stuff they haven't experienced they could actually learn something. I would love for one of those pier rats to go down to the keys or the east coast and say something like "chofer" or "LY" or "black snapper" with their typical attitude.....
EXACTLY.. And even more comical is that most of those jerks dont have a pot to piss in. I know SEVERAL of these varieties. Got a freakin VS250 on a $200 rod (hand wrapped ofcourse, "anything less would be uncivilized") --- and dont even have a damn car or more than 100 bucks in their savings account. Or owe a bunch of money for child support, credit score of 520. Or live with their "mawma" etc etc etc. Lol its so funny. BUT they ARE soooo cooool and gods gift to fishing.
 

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King Crab (06/06/2010)If you dont like pier fishing, By all means dont go! It was Freaking Opening day! There were maybe 1000 people out there half fishing half walking. Its a rare day for that amount of people. Yes walkers & fisher's clash because no one wants to hook someone. But the onlookers dont pay attention to thier surroundings which fishers over a period of time loose their kool over. Same with boats. I will say once things calm down out there it will be an awsome pier. Most boat fishermen arent into the competition of pier fishing. Also there was free beer & food with a donation yesterday adding to the fun. If your not a pier fishermen, You wont understand. Once your used to boating it, You gennerally wont go on a pier. I have done both a long time. I love pier fishing because you can go for a hour or all day. No boat to refuel or clean up. No rough conditions. usually you can catch your bait while there. Again, If you dont like it, Dont come. If you love competitve fishing, Bring it on. Some of the best boat fishermen in this areacame from pier fishing. Its not a good thing to be rude to the walkers but alot of them have little to no clue. They dont understand how easy it is to get hooked. Some dont care. But you never hear the complaint about unrully lookers not moving out of the way do you? There's alot of pier fishermen who read this forum, We are proud of our style of fishing just as you are yours. lets have a tournament day, Baoters against the pierfishers. We'll wear a colered tag or something to tell the diffrence & lets see what happens. Who catches more fish? Could be fun! I know several boat fishers that are worthy.
well said 'Crab !:toast
 

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<span id=ctl00_ctlContentPlaceHolder_ctl00_ctlTopic_ctlPanelBar_ctlTopicsRepeater_ctl08_lblFullMessage>If you dont like pier fishing, By all means dont go! It was Freaking Opening day! There were maybe 1000 people out there half fishing half walking. Its a rare day for that amount of people. Yes walkers & fisher's clash because no one wants to hook someone. But the onlookers dont pay attention to thier surroundings which fishers over a period of time loose their kool over. Same with boats. I will say once things calm down out there it will be an awsome pier. Most boat fishermen arent into the competition of pier fishing. Also there was free beer & food with a donation yesterday adding to the fun. If your not a pier fishermen, You wont understand. Once your used to boating it, You gennerally wont go on a pier. I have done both a long time. I love pier fishing because you can go for a hour or all day. No boat to refuel or clean up. No rough conditions. usually you can catch your bait while there. Again, If you dont like it, Dont come. If you love competitve fishing, Bring it on. Some of the best boat fishermen in this areacame from pier fishing. Its not a good thing to be rude to the walkers but alot of them have little to no clue. They dont understand how easy it is to get hooked. Some dont care. But you never hear the complaint about unrully lookers not moving out of the way do you? There's alot of pier fishermen who read this forum, We are proud of our style of fishing just as you are yours. lets have a tournament day, Baoters against the pierfishers. We'll wear a colered tag or something to tell the diffrence & lets see what happens. Who catches more fish? Could be fun! I know several boat fishers that are worthy.
well said kenny....some people will never understand
 

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I have to say that this year, except for this report of poor behavior on Navarre, has been MUCH better with fishermen getting along with fishermen. I think that message boards and the ability to state opinions in a civil way helps in this regard. I'd be interested in the opinions of others on this subject.

Onlookers will always be a safety issue. When there is a crowd, I pitch my live bait/cigar minnow underhand. I can still get it out there without worrying about hooking a guy coming out of nowhere and wandering (or worse, running!) not aware of fishermen.

I can fish from a boat, but I like pier fishing! I imagine that one of the difficult aspects of managing the pier is setting the rules and enforcing them. Jerks? I'm hard of hearing, so they don't bother me. It would only be a problem if someone got in my face because I wasn't listening to him. But that's never happened to me. Bottom line is that if the other guy has a problem, it will just stay his problem if you ignore him. I think that if the rules are posted prominently, it's reasonable to expect patrons to comply.

I didn't fish Navarre on opening day because I knew that people would be elbow-to-elbow. Only if I liked that set of circumstances would I subject myself to that circus. A big Spanish run and people flinging gotchas on a crowded pier? All that it would take is one person not paying attention and it could ruin the day for everyone concerned.

So y'all be careful! Watch out for the sightseers (that's an interesting term, isn't it - what's the alternative, echolocation?) and enjoy the day. It's fishing!
 
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