Today at bob sykes a guy caught a big red drum that was just an inch to big, using menhadens. Are menhadens and gold spoons good for catching reds? Btw I had just caught some menhaden on a sabiki and I was about to reel it in and something took them imediately and bent my pole down. I foaught with it for about a minute and it cut straight through the thin sabiki line. I assumed it wasn't a mackeral because those weren't fighting that hard today. Then I put another one with a weight and the same thing happen after a little fight. I couldn't get a bite on my pole with 40 lb test. So are menhaden good for drums and big fish or is it just because they were hungry, and what type of gold spoons should I get.