Allen, too funny, no hard feelings. There are enough people out there who deserve hard feelings without getting into it with a fellow fisherman. Heck I could be fishing next to you tomorrow. Good luck and tight lines. I just have a soft spot for the toothy critters. Growing up I wasn't able to go after any of the glamorous deep water stuff, the biggest game I could go after were sharks. Had lots of fun with them so I try to let them go when I don't have the freezer space. I just still remember back when guys would kill them just to kill them and then leave them on the beach or in dumpsters or wherever to rot. Not the way for fish like that to go. Just out of curiosity, how far out on the pier did you see them? I used to catch sharks near a pier like this up in NJ where the rules were the same. We used to wait till the wind was blowing offshore and then drift baits to the sharks from the beach using balloons. That way you could hook them and then work them away from the pier as you landed them. Might be a solution to the problem....