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what is fireline crystal? is it a braid? is it flourocarbon? is it thinner than mono? if so what is the equivalent mono size for 20 lb? can i fish 20 lb for reds n specks without a leader?
 

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i have used fireline before on my reels !! berkly calls it a superline i think its a braided line , it looks just like braid too me and it fishes like braid . it all depends on the person some people like braid some dont its very strong and yeh 20lb might be over kill for specks and redseven without a leader,but thats just me !! i used 10lb with no leader no problem !! like i said it very strong !! 20lb is equivlant to 8lb diam.

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cool thanx dak ummm i read that it is very stiff and has a lot of memory in fact the guy said almost like a very thin wire. you use ten lb WHAT for specksnreds without a leader?
 

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i used 10lb fireline without a leader for specks and reds . and yes it does seem kind of stiff and it does tend to get wind knots in it !!
 

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Don't use over eight pound test in the fireline. I have used it for years in the 4-6 pound test. It is unreal! When you get to ten and above it is just too stiff. Absolutely no need to use over six for specks and reds. It breaks at twice the test on the spool. [4 breaks at 8, 6 breaks at twelve]. You can pull a red away from a piling with four pound. The distance you can cast with this line is unbelievable. If you trip the bail manually you will get virtually no wind knots. Whether you use crystal, lime green or smoke it is the best braid bar none in the light tests.
 

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I've been interested in trying the crystal. I understood that it was basically a braid that had been melted to keep it from unraveling??
 

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I use abouttwo to three feet of 10-15 pound flouro. Used to us about five to six feet so I didn't have to replace the leader as often. You get into trouble though when your braid to mono connection is inside of the guides. If you are ever going to get a mess it will be when the knot catches on the way thru the guides. I just use the short leader now so the knot is outside of the tip. You have to retie the leader more but it just takes about thirty seconds to tie the knot so it is no big deal. Even with the Crystal I still like to use the leader.
 

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Wrighttackle is "wright-on" about Fireline. It is a type of braid called Dyneema. Power-pro, stren, Suffix & other dark green or yellow braids are Spectra,which lose their pigment & get fuzzy with use. Fireline is color fast and does tend to be a little stiffer( feelskind of waxy & waterproof)than spectra,especially in heavier line tests. I have usedCrystal Fireline since it became available on acouple of my bait casting reels with great success. I also use a short 10-15# flourocarbon leader which can be tied in seconds with a double uni-knot. I even spooled a couple of My Stradic 2000 spinning reels with PINK Fireline for my Fishin Chix crews to fish for specks, ladyfish, & bluefish on a poppih' cork with....This stuff lasts much longer than Spectra. Tight Lines

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Another property of Fireline isthat it doesn't absorb water so it floats. That makes it better for working topwater baits and popping corks. It does get some terrible wind knots, but with some patience you can pick them out much easier than in mono.
 

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i used fireline for cobia last year. i liked it a lot. i didnt get near as many wind knots as with PP. it was really strong andi dont think it cut as much as PP and other braids. jus wondering why do you not want to use a leader? at nite it doesnt really matter and it dirty water not so much but when teh water is clean your gonna have to use one or lose some bites IMO
 

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just trying to minimize gear. er um i mean OK OK im just lazy. well kinda ive lost some big something or others from my not slipping (uni knot) and i just figure the fewer knots the better off.havent learned the palomar yet but i will.
 

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Don't use over eight pound test in the fireline. I have used it for years in the 4-6 pound test. It is unreal! When you get to ten and above it is just too stiff. Absolutely no need to use over six for specks and reds. It breaks at twice the test on the spool. [4 breaks at 8, 6 breaks at twelve]. You can pull a red away from a piling with four pound. The distance you can cast with this line is unbelievable. If you trip the bail manually you will get virtually no wind knots. Whether you use crystal, lime green or smoke it is the best braid bar none in the light tests.



ok what exactly is a wind as in a toy car or as in gone with the? how will manually tripping my bail prevent them? what are light tests?
 
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