[jack2]

when i had horses and they got thru the fence, the first thing i would do is get a bucket of sweet feed and a halter. i am not a livestock contractor (whatever the hell that is) but i do know how to handle livestock. if cows get out, you slowly walk behind them in the direction you want them to go. it's not rocket science and it certainly is not being filmed as a western. it's very easy if you do it right.
jack

 

[gameaholic]

well they said it wasn't the first time the donkey got out. So the livestock guy should have known what he needed.

 

[Play'N Hooky Too]

On a related note....has anybody seen my pigs? I've gone through about 50 in the last two years, but they just keep getting out. I've asked the hunting club next door a few times if anyone over there has seen them, but they are all a bunch of asshats and won't speak to me anymore. I've been trying to raise them as natural, "organic" pork, so they do look a little wild with their uncut tusks and all until you get to know them. I hope nothing bad has happened to them. It would just break my heart. 😥

 

[YELLOWCAT]

That must be a pretty easy job!

 

[straightshooter]

If he didn't shoot it, and it ran in the road and a car hit it and killed someone, then they would say he didn't do his job and should have shot it before it got in the road. Owner is reasonably responsible to contain the animal. Animals get out and PH handled the situation to prevent any further danger.

 

[YELLOWCAT]

If he didn't shoot it, and it ran in the road and a car hit it and killed someone, then they would say he didn't do his job and should have shot it before it got in the road. Owner is reasonably responsible to contain the animal. Animals get out and PH handled the situation to prevent any further danger.

I've never heard of a livestock contractor but if that's his job he needs to get better at the job and be equipped to handle these situations. They make a dart gun with tranquilizers just for this. It's pretty obvious from listening to him that he was pretty excited to shoot the animal.

 

[Walton County]

Haven’t been around too many farm animals have you? Would you feel the same way if this was your dog?

I was at dinner yesterday and some ladies dog pulled over a chair that the leash was clipped too. It was an aluminum chair and it scared the crap(literally) out of the dog. The dog went crazy and ran through about 8 tables before hitting the parking lot. He managed to drag the chair through 4 cars. I was able to catch the chair and the dog chilled out long enough for the lady to retrieve him.
honestly, it was a pretty dangerous situation for a kid. The chair whipping around corners and all.
I should have pumped 9+1 into him in the parking lot. I could have been famous.

I saw a guy hit a cow in January that I believe died. It was at night. I know nothing about live stock. I wouldn’t have shot the cow but don’t know how to get a cow to come to me either.

tough call if your the person charged with dealing with a loose critter.

 

[JoeyWelch]

All you do with a cow is just tell it to mooooooove.

Couldnt help myself

 

[LY-zer]

Joey, you nailed that one. I am crowning you king of the "Dad" jokes. Awesome morning start.

 

[YELLOWCAT]

Be kinda like hiring a guy to lay bricks that dont know how to lay bricks. You gonna wind up with a fuck up!!

 

[CurDog]

FL Statue 588.15 puts the owner responsible for their livestock in/about on a roadway or on the RoW.
FSS 588.24 Refusal or failing to remove your animals from RoW, is a 2d degree Misdemeanor offense.
FSS 588.16 Gives Authority to the Sherriff, etc... to impound livestock running at large. Says Nothing about authorizing the killing of the animal(s).
FSS 588.17 (4) (a) and (b) deals with disposing of the livestock and humanely if necessary. But that's After the animal has been impounded, and then too, only After Notifying the Owner of the impending disposal.

Also referring to the "laughter", you should remember, He was talking to a dispatcher, not an Officer.
That's why they transferred the call to a lieutenant. And since there were other inaudible voices heard on the tape, you really don't know if the dispatcher was laughing at that particular situation or laughing at a joke someone had just told?
It's hard to second guess the circumstances as to why this happened the way it did, but the fact he took no trailer or equipment to catch an animal (rope/lasso/herding dog) to start with, and the fact he told the dispatcher "It won’t be the first one I did", leaves one to believe he had no intention to remove the animal responsibly from the git-go.

Here's the Facts of the Case as we know it, You Decide.....

Philip Hayes charged for shooting donkey on Deaton Bridge Road (pnj.com)

 

[Outside9]

If it had been on I-10, it would have been easier to justify.

I don’t care what the Lt. said, no reason to shoot that donkey where it was at.

I came across a fine looking bull out on Hwy. 189 in Baker one morning. With a little coaxing it went right back over the fence. A lot more traffic there but a little common sense prevailed.


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[finfever61]

If it had been on I-10, it would have been easier to justify.

I don’t care what the Lt. said, no reason to shoot that donkey where it was at.

I came across a fine looking bull out on Hwy. 189 in Baker one morning. With a little coaxing it went right back over the fence. A lot more traffic there but a little common sense prevailed.


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Sounds you’re qualified to be the next livestock contractor since a Bull is definitely a more dangerous animal than a Donkey. Common sense isn’t too common these days but the easy way out is. He should have handled better like you did.

 

[LY-zer]

Well, I think we all agree that it should have been handled better. Question is, does he have a case? I guess in this screwy world where shite don't make sense we will just have to wait and find out.

 

[fla_scout]

I was at dinner yesterday and some ladies dog pulled over a chair that the leash was clipped too. It was an aluminum chair and it scared the crap(literally) out of the dog. The dog went crazy and ran through about 8 tables before hitting the parking lot. He managed to drag the chair through 4 cars. I was able to catch the chair and the dog chilled out long enough for the lady to retrieve him.
honestly, it was a pretty dangerous situation for a kid. The chair whipping around corners and all.
I should have pumped 9+1 into him in the parking lot. I could have been famous.

I saw a guy hit a cow in January that I believe died. It was at night. I know nothing about live stock. I wouldn’t have shot the cow but don’t know how to get a cow to come to me either.

tough call if your the person charged with dealing with a loose critter.

I guess I will never understand peoples need to bring their damn dogs everywhere with them especially an eating establishment. Had a chihuahua the other day make one heck of a screaming noise in the Publix and scared half of everyone in there. Folks, the dog needs some alone time too so leave your critters at the house when your shopping or out to eat!

 

[Sprung51]

I really love putting my groceries in a cart where the dogs butt has been. Leave them at home folks, unless you are blind.
My wife is deathly afraid of cats. We went to a restaurant once where they let the feral cats wander at will. Including on outdoor tables. Folks think it’s nice. Many a time I’ve had to calm the public and peel her off the ceiling when a dog kisses one of her legs. She thinks it’s a cat.

 

[Splittine]

I really love putting my groceries in a cart where the dogs butt has been. Leave them at home folks, unless you are blind.
My wife is deathly afraid of cats. We went to a restaurant once where they let the feral cats wander at will. Including on outdoor tables. Folks think it’s nice. Many a time I’ve had to calm the public and peel her off the ceiling when a dog kisses one of her legs. She thinks it’s a cat.

Stay away from the Oar House then.

 

[kingfish501]

FL Statue 588.15 puts the owner responsible for their livestock in/about on a roadway or on the RoW.
FSS 588.24 Refusal or failing to remove your animals from RoW, is a 2d degree Misdemeanor offense.
FSS 588.16 Gives Authority to the Sherriff, etc... to impound livestock running at large. Says Nothing about authorizing the killing of the animal(s).
FSS 588.17 (4) (a) and (b) deals with disposing of the livestock and humanely if necessary. But that's After the animal has been impounded, and then too, only After Notifying the Owner of the impending disposal.

Also referring to the "laughter", you should remember, He was talking to a dispatcher, not an Officer.
That's why they transferred the call to a lieutenant. And since there were other inaudible voices heard on the tape, you really don't know if the dispatcher was laughing at that particular situation or laughing at a joke someone had just told?
It's hard to second guess the circumstances as to why this happened the way it did, but the fact he took no trailer or equipment to catch an animal (rope/lasso/herding dog) to start with, and the fact he told the dispatcher "It won’t be the first one I did", leaves one to believe he had no intention to remove the animal responsibly from the git-go.

Here's the Facts of the Case as we know it, You Decide.....

Philip Hayes charged for shooting donkey on Deaton Bridge Road (pnj.com)

Ever seen what a donkey will do to a dog? He'll kill it in a heartbeat.

 

[jwilson1978]

Ever seen what a donkey will do to a dog? He'll kill it in a heartbeat.

So will a horse if the dog aggravates it. But that's usually just a stomp or kick. Unlike what a Donkey where it turns into a horror show!Kick bite stomp chew and drag around and dance on the carcass.

 

[Weekend Hooker]

I just wanted to put this out there. PH and his family have always been the ones that the Sheriff's Office called when they needed assistance with any kind of livestock. I know in the late 80's, they were already utilizing him. I worked for the S.O. and called Mr. Hayes many a day and night to come and help with an animal. So, for the ones that assume that he has no experience with animals, I beg to differ. That man's whole life has evolved around animals. I bet the bank he tried everything before resorting to putting that donkey down.