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I am really glad I posted on this forum. You guys are great! Together we can put the Shares/separation groups in their places. We simply cannot allow the privation of our great sport to become a reality.


This just in: Public outcry at work!


We are being heard! The will of the American people is an unstoppable force. We will NEVER, that's NEVER, allow the privation of our great sport to become a reality. Shares/separation will NOT be shoved down the throats of the American fisherman/woman. Bob Harbison

latest news from new orleans

looks like the sector separation scam is coming apart at the seams!

gary jarvis left in a huff and has apparently resigned from the CFA.

the gulf council just tabled sector separation for at least a year, along with any new catch shares.

good new for once!

now we need to DEMAND that the effort/landings data br goundtruthed, as Strelcheck's fairytale numbers need to be shown to be impossible.

capt. thomas j. hilton​


 

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Wanted to bring this up again and also wanted to ask about the thread with the restaurant names that were backing this. Anyone remember it? Thanks.
 

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I am against this for a number of reasons. 1st. and foremost, there is no FAIR way to do this and all the followers of Jarvis KNOW that. 2nd, this resource does not belong to any group. In fact, it doesn't belong to the government either, but that's the way they treat it. 3. Refer to #1
www.aquaventurecharters.com will not drink the Kool-aid.

One thing's certain, there are a bunch of commercial fishing people who would LOVE this to come about, that way, they'd have a larger number of people who'd buy their excessive poundage shares and the price would double. I sold the pitiful few pounds that were left when they stole my 200lb permit for $37.50 per pound! Just think what they'd be worth if other charter boats were forced to purchase them.
 

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Wondering if there is anyway that we can teach the tourist about all this. We that have boats and fish won't make a HUGE splash if we can't find a way to give the knowledge to people that are actually fishing these boats.

Most of them are uneducated and just want to catch their shares, and probably wouldn't really care about what is happening since they only fish once a year or something similar. But there has got to be a way we can educate Bob and Nancy visiting from Georgia, Tennessee, Ohio, Alabama ect. Those are the people that generate revenue for these boats.
 

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Just to be fair and share the wealth it is more than just Destin charter boats. are supporting the plan. there are 200 plus charter captains from port aransas texas to tampa florida across the gulf states that have voiced their support for it. Many over in orange beach support it.

and Yes. the gulf council has tabled it for a year, but in the meantime i have heard that each of the 200 plus charter captains that suport the plan ask every person that comes on their boat to sign a petition to support the sector separation plan. when the year of wait time is they hope to slam down 20,000 or so signatures of their charter clients in a petition format in front of the gulf council and say that their customers support the plan for their own quota.
 

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each of the 200 plus charter captains that suport the plan ask every person that comes on their boat to sign a petition to support the sector separation plan.
Unfortunately, most will sign it because they don't know any better. They'll believe anything the captain says.
 

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I am really glad I posted on this forum. You guys are great! Together we can put the Shares/separation groups in their places. We simply cannot allow the privation of our great sport to become a reality.


This just in: Public outcry at work!


We are being heard! The will of the American people is an unstoppable force. We will NEVER, that's NEVER, allow the privation of our great sport to become a reality. Shares/separation will NOT be shoved down the throats of the American fisherman/woman. Bob Harbison

latest news from new orleans

looks like the sector separation scam is coming apart at the seams!

gary jarvis left in a huff and has apparently resigned from the CFA.

the gulf council just tabled sector separation for at least a year, along with any new catch shares.

good new for once!

now we need to DEMAND that the effort/landings data br goundtruthed, as Strelcheck's fairytale numbers need to be shown to be impossible.

capt. thomas j. hilton

Could you explain the shares thing to someone who's completely uninformed? I come down there every summer and would like to know why NOT to pick a particular charter.
 

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basically they are stealing a natural resources and allocating that resources to a select few to ensure they have physical security in the future. To sum it up they are stealing your fish and selling them back to you thats the basic concept.
 

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:thumbsup: that about sums it up.

As a small kid, I can remember going into the Ocala National Forest each Christmas. My grandfather had a small camp located there. We would enjoy a brisk day in December and saw down our own Christmas tree. It was a family affair, spanning all three generations, scouring the woods, in search of the best tree.

Kinda like going fishing was, too.
 

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basically they are stealing a natural resources and allocating that resources to a select few to ensure they have physical security in the future. To sum it up they are stealing your fish and selling them back to you thats the basic concept.
That's pretty close. But, another thing this will bring on is the following:

Ring ring: Hello, this is Acme Charters, how may I help you?

Caller: Hi, me and some buddies want to fish March 3rd, can you take us?
Acme: Sure, we're open that day... what do you want to fish for?

Caller: We just want to catch some fish, what's biting at that time.

Acme: Most everything, but if you want to catch Red Snapper we can do that too.... FOR $300.00 MORE.
I promise, this is coming if they approve this B.S.
 

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:thumbsup: No doubt, that scenario is guaranteed, throughout the sector. Then project that into 2017 to include AJ's, grouper, and perhaps king mackerel.

I don't think anyone is allowed to take ANY Christmas trees these days, either. They are still for sale to the highest bidder........ until Christmas Eve. Sometimes, I'm glad I don't have any grand kids.

But if I did, they would soon learn, grandpa has become a pirate!

Good luck fellas. I'll help if I can.
 

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If Destin fishing is do great why are they always fishing over here and west on their 12 hour trips? Seems like a ton of running time. They need to fish east and south east deep.
 
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