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I went out to Johnson's beach today and fished gulfside. It was a little more gnarly out there then I would like it in my 10 foot Pelican. But I went anyways. Got some Spanish, ladyfish, and sharks. But I caught this fish and told my buddy about it and he said sometimes small King have spots. So now it's got me wondering if it's a Spanish or a king. Any ideas? By the way that measuring board is 37 inches long and he was hanging off 2 to 3 inches and I would say he was maybe 15 + pounds.

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Some kings will have spots. Youhave to look for the sharp drop of the lateral line.
 

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Another dead give away is the dorsal fins. Kings have short, gray( one color) dorsal fins while spanish have much taller, black dorsal fins that fade to almost white, often called the black flag.
I caught a 18 lb king yesterday that still had his spots.
 

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Like said above, the front third or so of the Spanish will be black trailing to white. The king bite was definitely on yesterday
 

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Sweet then thats my first king in my yak. Cought him on a 3/8 oz white jig with white hair. Yea I was thinking if that was a Spanish I should of kept him cause it may have been a record. Fun as hell though almost spooled me.

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Another dead give away is the dorsal fins. Kings have short, gray( one color) dorsal fins while spanish have much taller, black dorsal fins that fade to almost white, often called the black flag.
I caught a 18 lb king yesterday that still had his spots.

Lateral line and spots can trick you. ^ this is the most effective way of telling. Kings will have an opaque front dorsal while spanish will always be black or black fading to white.
 

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Lateral line and spots can trick you. ^ this is the most effective way of telling. Kings will have an opaque front dorsal while spanish will always be black or black fading to white.
Just curious, but how does a lateral line "trick" someone. It's either a sharp drop or it's not.
 

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The dorsal fin is NOT always accurate. You should never use color to ID fish. The latteral line is the only way to tell. I always forget which is which until I look at the fish in person. Its hard to confuse a big spanish with a small king. A big spanish is much thicker generally then a king of the same size. Saying that, the latteral is still the only way to be 100 percent.
 

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Just curious, but how does a lateral line "trick" someone. It's either a sharp drop or it's not.
Because the lateral line doesn't always drop sharply or stay even, sometimes its in the middle for spanish or king. I've caught spanish that had very close to king like drops and I've caught king with almost no drop, but I've never caught king with black dorsals or spanish with clear ones.
 

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Because the lateral line doesn't always drop sharply or stay even, sometimes its in the middle for spanish or king. I've caught spanish that had very close to king like drops and I've caught king with almost no drop, but I've never caught king with black dorsals or spanish with clear ones.
Youve got it backwards, color is HIGHLY variable on fish. However, the lateral line is not. The LL is always there and always the same shape. Color, even on the same fish, can change dramatically.
 

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I will say though that a spanish more likely to not show its "black flag" then a king is to have one.

The black flag is a good quick indicator but not always correct.

Best thing is to just toss the mackerel back and try and catch something that tastes good. lol Well, Spanish aint bad sashimi actually.
 
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