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Dont mean to start a "chevy vs ford" type debate...I continue to learn more about boats in hopes of having my own "real" boat someday soon.The real estate market and recession is keeping me from selling one of my houses, which is the mainreason for the delay. I've been on several boats now, and I always pay attention to the engine brand, type, etc. My first real boat is going to have a 4 stroke engine. I dont want to debate merits of 2 stroke vs 4 stroke.

It seems everywhere I look, I see Yamaha. It's almost the default go to engine it seems. But why? Are they that good? Are the others crap? Or does Yamaha just have more marketing dollars? My best car ever was a honda, I would think honda makes a kick ass marine motor, but I dont know. Also, I know at least two forum members who swear by their suzukis. Then I have heard"Etec kicks ass/Etec sucks", etc.

I'd like to hear your experiences and preferences, which though they may be anecdotal, perhaps the poll will give us admittedly unscientific bigger picture.
 

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I have run the Hondas and Yamaha both in very hard work conditions.

The Honda 90 ran for over 3000 hrs before we retired it due to steering sticking. No engine type issues at all with continuous abuse and neglect. 3.2 GPH accross the board fuel average.

The Yamaha 90 (tiller steer ) doesn't have an hr meter but has held up well engine wise for 4 yrs of abuse. The only issue with it was the lower unit having to be repaired do to high speed shifting to heavy load abuse...

They are both reccomended from my experience.....The Honda may be a bit easier on the fuel, but that is a purely anecdotal observation..
 

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This may not be an far observation because my Hondas are messed up. ONE is out of whack.

I can only evaluate the yamma and Honda being the only four strokes I've been on.

I think I would lean to Yammaha though. Again on of my motors in out of tune so I' sure it effects its tourqe and MPG.

If I had a choice and money I would go with the E-Techs though.
 

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4-stroke e-tech?? or were you just saying you'd take the e-tech even though it's a 2-stroke over a 4-stroke model?

i like the mercs myself. ridden on a couple boats w/ the verados and it's awesome. interested to hear the reviews on the 300s and 350s after they've been out a couple years.
 

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I don't know about you guy's, but I have a 1979 15 footer with a 1980 15 Johnson, and it is awesome! J/K!! No, but I have to say Honda, my grandpappy's got a 130 on the back of his '02 Key West, and it has been through hell and back, no issues, just regular maint.
 

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Get a yamaha, were ever you are at there is a service department... if you break down in cuba they have service department, not to say you will break down but you get my point. If you break down in mexico you could probobly get etec parts, but all kidding aside. Honda suzuki just dont have the support group like yamaha does.
 

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chad403 (8/14/2009)Get a yamaha, were ever you are at there is a service department... if you break down in cuba they have service department, not to say you will break down but you get my point. If you break down in mexico you could probobly get etec parts, but all kidding aside. Honda suzuki just dont have the support group like yamaha does.
I have to agree with Chad. When I went out to buy my boat I asked a lot of people of their preference and why. I received a lot of the same answers and was really leaning toward Suzuki. But because of the repair network and availability of parts-I chose the Yamaha.So far it has been great-Of course it's still fairly new.
 

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TURTLE (8/14/2009)I don't know if you are aware of this but Johnson and evinrude are both made by Suzuki.
Daewoo, opal, chevy and Cadillac are made by GM. Don't understand the point.

Yes, I'm aware E-tech is a two stroke. I would just by it over the choices IF I COULD.
 

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TURTLE (8/14/2009)I don't know if you are aware of this but Johnson and evinrude are both made by Suzuki.
Daewoo, opal, chevy and Cadillac are made by GM. Don't understand the point.

Yes, I'm aware E-tech is a two stroke. I would just by it over the choices IF I COULD.
The point is we are not talking about cars.There is no difference between Suzuki, Johnson and Evinrude 4 stroke motors once you take off the couling.The cars you mentioned have many differences, transmissions , drive shafts, too many to list.Parts for almost everything on the above three are interchangable, you can't say that about a cadillac vs an opal can you?

Was'nt trying to start anything, it's just like trying to compare different brands of Iodized salt or bottled water, may look different on the outside but the same on the inside, so the question should be what color motor do you like better when comparing those three.
 

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TURTLE (8/14/2009)
Deeplines (8/14/2009)
TURTLE (8/14/2009)I don't know if you are aware of this but Johnson and evinrude are both made by Suzuki.
Daewoo, opal, chevy and Cadillac are made by GM. Don't understand the point.

Yes, I'm aware E-tech is a two stroke. I would just by it over the choices IF I COULD.
The point is we are not talking about cars.There is no difference between Suzuki, Johnson and Evinrude 4 stroke motors once you take off the couling.The cars you mentioned have many differences, transmissions , drive shafts, too many to list.Parts for almost everything on the above three are interchangable, you can't say that about a cadillac vs an opal can you?

Was'nt trying to start anything, it's just like trying to compare different brands of Iodized salt or bottled water, may look different on the outside but the same on the inside, so the question should be what color motor do you like better when comparing those three.


I see what you are saying.

Thanks.
 

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Yamaha or Suzuki.....i have had both...have a 250ss Suzuki now and that thing runs like a greased cheetah....my old yamaha was a reliable as the day is long and never let me down in 7 yrs.....i have heard and seen nothing but bad out of the new merc's and the ole e-boom...errrr e-tec
 

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I have a 250 suzuki 4s that I have put 120 hours on since March. So far so good. Its the first 4s I have owned and I can honestly say I will never go back to a 2 stroke.

When I was shopping for a new motor to repower I was looking at a couple different things and was not set on which 4stroke I wanted. The things I looked at were:

1. Price

2. Warranty

3. Which local dealer would service the engine

If I could have gotten a yamaha forabetter price than Igot the suzuki forI would have. I think youcould have problems with any brand outboard. So it boiled down to the three things above for me.
 

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honda

suzuki

yamaha

i will never own another 2stroke motor again. have twin suzuki's on my cat and absolutely love them. turn the switch, crank em up and never think twice about em. yamaha makes a great motor. bought my dad a honda outboard 7 years ago and have watched him punish a motor as much as u can do and it's still purring today. running over rock jetties at lake martin, jumping log jams in the alabama river, 7 years of running it tilted up on ft. pickens beach flounder fishing in the sand and that motor hasn't missed a lick. have two stainless steel props for it. one's on the motor and the other's always in the shop where he's hit something. that motor puts honda at the top of my list....:)
 
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