I have been shooting the Barnes 150gr hollow point in my 30-30. I have shot 2 deer with them. 1 at 30 yrds and she dropped in her tracks. The other I shot at 50 yrds and had to trail her about 90 yards on my hands and knees. The problem I have with them is they don't leave a good blood trail to follow if they run. The entrance and exit hole were about the size of my little finger and the spots of blood were way smaller. Both deer were shot in the shoulder. I can drive nails with these but I'm tired of trailing deer on my knees. Does anyone have any experience with any of the 30-30 bullets that will punch a bigger hole?