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Old 03-31-2014, 01:27 PM   #1
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This is something growing up I never struggled with. I enjoyed giving and doing what I could to help folks.
Flash forward 15 or so years, I am a new Dad with a young family. Blend that with a harsh sense of cynicism and I am finding it harder and harder to help folks. Now I am not saying that I don't help folks but it certainly isn't easy anymore. Self(familial) preservation constantly weighs in the forefront of my mind. I am not sure why, it isn't like we want for much of anything, perhaps its my less than optimistic outlook on the economy?

Any of y'all find yourselves in a similar boat?
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Im there with ya man! My son, who is now 3, has been a factor for the huge change in the person i am today. I am always putting him before anything/one else.
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I am an older dad and I have to say that my youngest has taught me to see things differently. I watch her share with other people and go out of her way to hold doors and simple things like that. It has rubbed off on me again....I 'm glad too.
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This is something growing up I never struggled with. I enjoyed giving and doing what I could to help folks.
Flash forward 15 or so years, I am a new Dad with a young family. Blend that with a harsh sense of cynicism and I am finding it harder and harder to help folks. Now I am not saying that I don't help folks but it certainly isn't easy anymore. Self(familial) preservation constantly weighs in the forefront of my mind. I am not sure why, it isn't like we want for much of anything, perhaps its my less than optimistic outlook on the economy?

Any of y'all find yourselves in a similar boat?
Just try to keep in mind, you can't outgive God. After all he owns all the cattle and a thousand hills and Jesus didn't just go half way to the cross. Hope this will help you.
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In these times that there are more takers then givers, it's hard to determine who is actually "in need". These Obamanomics make it easier to get handouts and making folks wanna stay on or be on assistance. You must put you family ahead of others but not GOD! I let the spirit move me when there are folks in need, but then again I am always trying to help others more then I help myself. Service is the strongest spiritual gifts I have.
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These days it help to have a discerning spirit for sure.
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Jason hit the answer to your question. Give as the spirit moves you. You will be in a place and He will nudge you if you are listening. It comes at the oddest times but I find myself knowing that moment when it presents itself and help as best I can.
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In these times that there are more takers then givers, it's hard to determine who is actually "in need". These Obamanomics make it easier to get handouts and making folks wanna stay on or be on assistance. You must put you family ahead of others but not GOD! I let the spirit move me when there are folks in need, but then again I am always trying to help others more then I help myself. Service is the strongest spiritual gifts I have.

wow so well said and so true.

for me I see things two ways. one is probably right and one is probably wrong. I now have 9 grand children and looking out for their future is my number one goal. at least once a week and even more in bad weather I reach out and help people who in my heart says I should but then I have this other calculation I probably shouldn't admit to.
even though I shouldn't judge others I have a real problem with those who I at lest strongly suspect as being part of the problems we have today that is only getting worse . If someone has rings hanging out of their nose , smoking cigarettes , covered in tattoo's or has their rear end hanging out of their pants I must say I ignore them and they never get a dime from me.
I know that sounds bad and I think deep inside my mind these are the very people I should be more willing to try and alter their lifestyle but so far I have not been able to do that.
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Giving!
Acts 20:35 I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

Since taking a 40% cut in pay last September, (when I was diagnosed and told I couldn't work) we had to learn where to cut back. We learned we could do without some of the stuff we thought we needed, but could not stop giving to others.
We have not suffered! We don't eat out as much as we used to, but when we do we will usually pay for someone's food without letting them know. The spirit will guide us. There have been times that it looked like the folks we were inspired to treat, we're very well off. I think those folks are probably givers and God inspired us to give to them. It is fun to watch the face of some people. There are also times it appears the folks we bought for just act like it is no big deal. We don't question why anyone is chosen. A blessing is a blessing! They may not show any emotion or wonderment. But at some point most people are going to wonder who and why would someone pay for their meal. As new believers, we had a hard time accepting blessings in the beginning, but eventually we learned to accept the blessings.
We are not prideful about our giving. We are obedient!

Proverbs 11:24-25
There is one who scatters, and yet increases all the more, and there is one who withholds what is justly due, and yet it results only in want. The generous man will be prosperous, and he who waters will himself be watered.


2 Corinthians 9:6-8
Now this I say, he who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. Each one must do just as he has purposed in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that always having all sufficiency in everything, you may have an abundance for every good deed.


My point is, we thought, had doubt, we would not be able to continue giving to others. Doubt is a tool of the enemy. Remain obedient and believe God's Word!
These scriptures don't say give a specific amount they say give as you can. We have found we can live and give just as we always have, even with a 40% cut in pay and more medical bills. God continues to bless us!
God is good, all the time....and all the time, God is good!

You guys are all givers! I have personally witnessed and been a receiver of one of the guys here on this thread! Jason took me out fishing one night a few weeks ago. We had never met in person! After not being on the water since last November, I could not express in words what a blessing that was to me!
I have seen by the comments of you other guys, you are all givers.

The scripture for Jason's comment about family is I Tim 5:8 If anyone fails to provide for his relatives, and especially for those of his own family, he has disowned the faith [by failing to accompany it with fruits] and is worse than an unbeliever [who performs his obligation in these matters]. KJV says infidel where this version says unbeliever. Infidel is a stronger word.
This is from the Amplified Version. I usually use KJV, but this explains the verse very good.

Be blessed, I'm going fishing now! No, really I'm going to put the yak in the water!
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Giving!
Acts 20:35 I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

Since taking a 40% cut in pay last September, (when I was diagnosed and told I couldn't work) we had to learn where to cut back. We learned we could do without some of the stuff we thought we needed, but could not stop giving to others.
We have not suffered! We don't eat out as much as we used to, but when we do we will usually pay for someone's food without letting them know. The spirit will guide us. There have been times that it looked like the folks we were inspired to treat, we're very well off. I think those folks are probably givers and God inspired us to give to them. It is fun to watch the face of some people. There are also times it appears the folks we bought for just act like it is no big deal. We don't question why anyone is chosen. A blessing is a blessing! They may not show any emotion or wonderment. But at some point most people are going to wonder who and why would someone pay for their meal. As new believers, we had a hard time accepting blessings in the beginning, but eventually we learned to accept the blessings.
We are not prideful about our giving. We are obedient!

Proverbs 11:24-25
There is one who scatters, and yet increases all the more, and there is one who withholds what is justly due, and yet it results only in want. The generous man will be prosperous, and he who waters will himself be watered.


2 Corinthians 9:6-8
Now this I say, he who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. Each one must do just as he has purposed in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that always having all sufficiency in everything, you may have an abundance for every good deed.


My point is, we thought, had doubt, we would not be able to continue giving to others. Doubt is a tool of the enemy. Remain obedient and believe God's Word!
These scriptures don't say give a specific amount they say give as you can. We have found we can live and give just as we always have, even with a 40% cut in pay and more medical bills. God continues to bless us!
God is good, all the time....and all the time, God is good!

You guys are all givers! I have personally witnessed and been a receiver of one of the guys here on this thread! Jason took me out fishing one night a few weeks ago. We had never met in person! After not being on the water since last November, I could not express in words what a blessing that was to me!
I have seen by the comments of you other guys, you are all givers.

The scripture for Jason's comment about family is I Tim 5:8 If anyone fails to provide for his relatives, and especially for those of his own family, he has disowned the faith [by failing to accompany it with fruits] and is worse than an unbeliever [who performs his obligation in these matters]. KJV says infidel where this version says unbeliever. Infidel is a stronger word.
This is from the Amplified Version. I usually use KJV, but this explains the verse very good.

Be blessed, I'm going fishing now! No, really I'm going to put the yak in the water!

Way ta throw down on some good reading Joe...now be careful on the water!
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