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Old 02-16-2013, 12:15 PM   #1
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There are basically two schools of thought:

The earth was created by an intelligent being.
The earth evolved from nothing.

Neither of the two belief systems can be proven via the scientific method. No one has observed the creation of a world and no one has observed a world evolving from nothing.

People who believe in creation believe that an intelligent being created the earth the way they wanted it to be. Not much more has to be said about this belief. It pretty much speaks for itself.

Proponents of the evolution theory consider themselves logical free thinking people. They believe that at some point, billions of years ago, something (not sure exactly what) happened that kick started life on this planet. From that point everything lined up just perfectly and stayed lined up perfectly for millions of years for that first speck of life to prosper and evolve into many different forms of life. This process continued to repeat itself for billions of years until we find ourselves here now with the great diversity of life that we have populating our planet.

I consider myself a logical free thinking person but just can’t get myself to think that the evolution theory is more logical than the creation theory. I look around and see how fragile life is. I have dabbled in gardening and know how difficult it is to get things to grow and flourish and that is with an unlimited amount of water, good soil, plenty of sunlight…. I just cannot imagine how life could have started in the manner described by the evolution theory. The world described by the evolution theory is one of harsh conditions hardly accommodating to any living thing but somehow something did survive and flourish. Tomatoes do not just magically sprout out of my garden. I have to prepare the soil, nurture the soil, provide water. I start the seeds indoors where the temperature is regulated then transplant them when they are ready. Nothing happens by chance.

One theory is that all the variables just happened to line up perfectly at just the right time for life to get kick started and conditions stayed favorable for long enough for life to prosper. The other theory says that it was all created. Everyone must decide for themselves. Personally I say that creation is much more logical.
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Who created the creator? And, is there muliple creators, or team of such creators? How in depth is your 'belief'? Does it stop at the point of when 'we' were created? Somewhere down the line, the creator(s) had to be 'created'. What about a theory on this? -O*D*W
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Why is it that everything had to line up "perfectly" in order for evolution to happen. I'm open to any form of debate or talk on the two theorys, but it has to be look at in an unbiased manner. To add words to the explanation to sway the argument one way or another from what we can see firsthand is not forming an open minded approach.

It may seem illogical to those who believe in creation to accept evolution, just as those who believe in evolution to embrace the idea of a higher power manifesting what you see today. If you step back from what you only want to believe, it should be just as easy to see how creation also seems improbable.

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There are basically two schools of thought:

The earth was created by an intelligent being.
The earth evolved from nothing.

Neither of the two belief systems can be proven via the scientific method. No one has observed the creation of a world and no one has observed a world evolving from nothing.

People who believe in creation believe that an intelligent being created the earth the way they wanted it to be. Not much more has to be said about this belief. It pretty much speaks for itself.

Proponents of the evolution theory consider themselves logical free thinking people. They believe that at some point, billions of years ago, something (not sure exactly what) happened that kick started life on this planet. From that point everything lined up just perfectly and stayed lined up perfectly for millions of years for that first speck of life to prosper and evolve into many different forms of life. This process continued to repeat itself for billions of years until we find ourselves here now with the great diversity of life that we have populating our planet.

I consider myself a logical free thinking person but just can’t get myself to think that the evolution theory is more logical than the creation theory. I look around and see how fragile life is. I have dabbled in gardening and know how difficult it is to get things to grow and flourish and that is with an unlimited amount of water, good soil, plenty of sunlight…. I just cannot imagine how life could have started in the manner described by the evolution theory. The world described by the evolution theory is one of harsh conditions hardly accommodating to any living thing but somehow something did survive and flourish. Tomatoes do not just magically sprout out of my garden. I have to prepare the soil, nurture the soil, provide water. I start the seeds indoors where the temperature is regulated then transplant them when they are ready. Nothing happens by chance.

One theory is that all the variables just happened to line up perfectly at just the right time for life to get kick started and conditions stayed favorable for long enough for life to prosper. The other theory says that it was all created. Everyone must decide for themselves. Personally I say that creation is much more logical.
I'm right with you on this, the cyle of life, food chains, nature, seasons, etc. are just too perfect to have happened by chance. While I do believe nature evolves, I believed it was designed that way by a creator be it God or whatever you want to call it. The human body is another example IMO it's way to perfect of a design to have happened by chance...Now with all that being said the question of where God came from is the tough one....
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I see the pros and cons of both ideas. I am open minded to all ideas, or theories, as to how or why we are here. For all I know, both theories mentioned above could each be half right. Maybe it took both to create our beings. If you think about it, something had to be 'created' in order for it to 'evolve'. Its fact that humans have 'evolved' over time from being primitive to technologically advanced. History shows us that. If we could achieve this in 150 years, is it that hard to belive earth hasnt evolved in the last 1,ooo years? Last Million years? And I still would like to hear some thoughts as to who people think created the Creator, other than Him just Being.
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The more I understand about science, evolution, etc. the more I appreciate God and all of His wisdom.
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God is the creator, life forms "adapt" to his ever changing environments. No other way it could happen. Read your bible guys. The devil works hard every second of every day to try to sway people away from his word. DON'T be one of those people. We will all be judged one day.
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I've been heavy into Genesis this past week and other then the battling through the family lines, it's easy to go out and see a different world....I'm not 1 of those who curses the rain or cold weather (unless I'm be greedy that day!) due to GOD's creation. My daily prayers thank GOD fer what ever conditions there are due to it being his will.

Now certain critters have "evolved" or better yet "adapted"....but then again what happens to us when we get into a position to survive, we adapt....
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Who created the creator? And, is there muliple creators, or team of such creators? How in depth is your 'belief'? Does it stop at the point of when 'we' were created? Somewhere down the line, the creator(s) had to be 'created'. What about a theory on this? -O*D*W
This question is actually good evidence for a creator. The principle of causality, which says everything must have a cause, begs the question of "how did it all start" if everything has to have a cause. There has to be a point of an uncaused cause. In other words, someone or something has to be outside of the principle of causality. The most logical answer is that the start was supernatural. God, according to the scripture, is not a created being, therefore, he is the creator.
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There's no doubt in my mind that I believe in creation because of the relationship I share with Jesus Christ and the love and spirit that he has placed upon my heart. I can understand people doubting but it takes accepting him into your heart and praising and thanking him for your blessings while things are going good just not when someone is in need. Read the bible and if your are open minded about how the ups and downs of life are normal and truly ask him to be your Lord and Savior he will show you firsthand that he will work in your life. Every day and night I ask the Lord to give me what I need not what I want and I am thnakful for whatever God has in store for my life. I also believe that God gives humans remarkable thinking skills for learning the things we need for survival and well being on Earth, but at the same time I believe are minds weren't created to wrap our heads around or understand things such as how the beginning of the Creator took place.
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