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Old 07-20-2013, 01:57 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I have a question about ammo for ya. I'm gonna be taking a trip to the smokies in about a week and I am planning on taking my judge with me. I am gonna try to conceal it if possible but I might just have to open carry. I have a CCL and am allowed to conceal or open carry a firearm in the national park so don't worry about that. My question is, what is the biggest .45 colt load I can safely use in this gun? It has the 3 inch cylinder and 4 inch barrel. I want to be able to stop a large black bear and I want the biggest load I can get. The first defense is gonna be spray then use the gun as a last resort. We're gonna have 4 children with us so I wanted to be as prepared as possible. What can this gun safely fire? Thanks.
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black bears are not a threat
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black bears are not a threat
Wrong, any North American bear is a threat given the right circumstance and In The wild that could occur at any time.
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I think I would email Taurus and ask them.

Unless your gonna walk into a bear feeding area, I doubt you will ever see one.
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.45 Colt is a low-pressure round . I'd trust a heavy .357 load before I would a Colt .45 .

Not to mention I'd be willing to bet the Judge isn't rated for hot loads from makers like Buffalo Bore or Cor-Bon .

Better IMO would be a 12 gauge loaded with slugs .
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.45 Colt is a low-pressure round . I'd trust a heavy .357 load before I would a Colt .45 .

Not to mention I'd be willing to bet the Judge isn't rated for hot loads from makers like Buffalo Bore or Cor-Bon .

Better IMO would be a 12 gauge loaded with slugs .
You are suggesting that he walk around a national park with a 12ga?
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the Colt 45 is not a weak round and can be had up to 1100 Ft lbs of energy
however this is what I use in my magnum judge with 6 1/2" barrel and my suggestion for use. I keep 2 rounds of this and 3 rounds #6 three" 410 in my gun.
can slightly pull back the hammer and rotate the cylinder two clicks for two shots of 45 colt where it is always ready with 3 shots of 410

Corbon DPX45C225/20

The all-copper bullet construction conquers hard barriers like auto glass and steel while still maintaining its integrity. This is an optimum load for Law Enforcement, Civilian Self-Defense, and Handgun Hunting.

- Deep penetration on soft tissue 12-17 inches.
- Easily conquers hard barriers like auto glass and steel.
- Reduced recoil due to lighter-weight projectile.
- Solid Copper projectile.
- Environmentally friendly!
*CERTIFIED: CALIFORNIA LEAD FREE*

Caliber: 45 Colt Plus P
Bullet Wt.: 225gr DPX
Velocity: 1200fps
Energy: 720ftlbs
Test Barrel Length: 7.5 Inches
20 rounds per box.

http://www.corbon.com/corboncart/cor...n/dpx45c225-20
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You are suggesting that he walk around a national park with a 12ga?
nope, just suggesting what I would want to carry .
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the Colt 45 is not a weak round and can be had up to 1100 Ft lbs of energy
however this is what I use in my magnum judge with 6 1/2" barrel and my suggestion for use. I keep 2 rounds of this and 3 rounds #6 three" 410 in my gun.
can slightly pull back the hammer and rotate the cylinder two clicks for two shots of 45 colt where it is always ready with 3 shots of 410

Corbon DPX45C225/20

The all-copper bullet construction conquers hard barriers like auto glass and steel while still maintaining its integrity. This is an optimum load for Law Enforcement, Civilian Self-Defense, and Handgun Hunting.

- Deep penetration on soft tissue 12-17 inches.
- Easily conquers hard barriers like auto glass and steel.
- Reduced recoil due to lighter-weight projectile.
- Solid Copper projectile.
- Environmentally friendly!
*CERTIFIED: CALIFORNIA LEAD FREE*

Caliber: 45 Colt Plus P
Bullet Wt.: 225gr DPX
Velocity: 1200fps
Energy: 720ftlbs
Test Barrel Length: 7.5 Inches
20 rounds per box.

http://www.corbon.com/corboncart/cor...n/dpx45c225-20
Didn't say it was a weak round . It's a low pressure round (14,000 C.U.P.) .

In comparsion . a .357 mag is loaded up to 35,000 CUP while .44 mags go up to 36,000 .

It's the gun I'm more concerned about than the load . As per Taurus INT

WARNING concerning ammunition marked “+P” and “+P+”. Recently there have
been many developments by ammunition manufacturers and reloaders, not all of them
good. It seems some ammunition manufacturers and reloaders are in a horsepower race
to see who can develop the most case pressure and muzzle velocity with little regard for
practicality or safety. Some of these loads exceed common sense and can virtually tear
metal apart. Taurus Firearms rated for “+P” ammunition are rated for Sporting Arms and
Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI) compliant “+P” ammunition. SAAMI does
not recognize any “+P+” ammunition at all. It is DANGEROUS to fire “+P+”
ammunition in any Taurus firearm and if you do so you may be seriously injured or
killed.
In addition, it seems some ammunition marked “+P” is not SAAMI compliant either.
There are only four calibers that can carry a “+P” rating from SAAMI. They are 38
Special +P, 9mm Luger +P, 38 Super Automatic and 45 Automatic +P. There are no
other SAAMI approved “+P” loads. Any ammunition in any other caliber marked “+P”
is not SAAMI compliant, may be dangerous and should not be used. Whenever you are
buying “+P” ammunition, look for a notation on the box that states that the ammunition is
SAAMI compliant!
DANGER for “+P+”
Never use “Plus -P -Plus” (+P+) rated ammunition in any Taurus firearm. The
Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI) does not recognize
such ratings and such ammunition can be very dangerous. Firing such ammunition can
cause catastrophic failure in firearms resulting in serious bodily injury or death.
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If it was me I would load 3 cylinders with .410 Brenneke Magnum Slugs 3". These have more energy and velocity than a typical 45LC, I think a +p load may have a little more energy depending on the manufacturer, but I definitely wouldn't chance a +p+ load in my Judge. Those Buffalo Bores are mean. I would also load 2 cylinders with No. 4 or 6 shot 3" .410, for snakes, jic.

http://www.brennekeusa.com/cms/1400.html?&L=0
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