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Old 11-30-2018, 07:43 PM   #1
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My good buddy gave me a muzzleloader as an early Christmas present. I was beyond shocked. I know nothing about them. What do you recommend for me to buy to make this a deer killing piece? Thanks for the help.
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https://escambiarivergunclub.org/gro...muzzleloaders/

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What type Jon? I have an older CVA takes the 209 primers, I love it. Just changed the scope and plan to try to sight it in tomorrow. It is a tack driver for the first 3 shots or so, then it needs a brush down the tube.

I have a membership at Escambia river, hopler if you wanna tag along some time its only $10 for guest and blows the place before the bridges out of the water.
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What type Jon? I have an older CVA takes the 209 primers, I love it. Just changed the scope and plan to try to sight it in tomorrow. It is a tack driver for the first 3 shots or so, then it needs a brush down the tube.

I have a membership at Escambia river, hopler if you wanna tag along some time its only $10 for guest and blows the place before the bridges out of the water.
Thanks Jason.

It's an Optima cva v2

It's a great looking gun! I can't wait to shoot it.
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. What do you recommend for me to buy to make this a deer killing piece? Thanks for the help.

What to buy:

A good scope and 1-piece scope mount
50 cal sabots or power belts
209 primers
blackpowder pellets (easiest/fastest to load)
good cleaning supplies


I have a T/C Encore magnum BP rifle and use 3 pellets = 150g powder.
Never over powder beyond the barrels printed limit.
Not familiar with the one you have, but it's max powder charge is either 100g or 150g.

I use the white hots pellets, burns cleaner, and 295g bullets.
There should be some accompanying literature on getting started, read it, as it should tell
you what they recommend on 1st time loading and shooting, as well as cleaning. Some even have their recommended bullets to use.

Once you get accustomed to it, you might want to try blackhorn 209 powder. It is in powder form so you will need to measure it for each shot (there's a quick measure device you can buy).
But the best thing about blackhorn 209 is that it is non-corrosive, whereas the white hots is corrosive.
Other B.powders are triple 7 (corrosive) and pyrodex powders (corrosive too I think).
I don't worry about the corrosive powder because I clean my barrel thoroughly even if I didn't shoot it that day.
g/l and have some fun

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What to buy:

A good scope and 1-piece scope mount
50 cal sabots or power belts
209 primers
blackpowder pellets (easiest/fastest to load)
good cleaning supplies


I have a T/C Encore magnum BP rifle and use 3 pellets = 150g powder.
Never over powder beyond the barrels printed limit.
Not familiar with the one you have, but it's max powder charge is either 100g or 150g.

I use the white hots pellets, burns cleaner, and 295g bullets.
There should be some accompanying literature on getting started, read it, as it should tell
you what they recommend on 1st time loading and shooting, as well as cleaning. Some even have their recommended bullets to use.

Once you get accustomed to it, you might want to try blackhorn 209 powder. It is in powder form so you will need to measure it for each shot (there's a quick measure device you can buy).
But the best thing about blackhorn 209 is that it is non-corrosive, whereas the white hots is corrosive.
Other B.powders are triple 7 (corrosive) and pyrodex powders (corrosive too I think).
I don't worry about the corrosive powder because I clean my barrel thoroughly even if I didn't shoot it that day.
g/l and have some fun

Thanks curdog! I think I got it narrowed down.
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My CVA Wolf really likes the following:
250gr Thompson Center Shockwaves
(2) 50gr Triple 7 pellets....100grs total
Remington Kleanbore 209 primer

It's a tac driver with that combo. I could never get the power belts to shoot well for me, but I got new glass this year so I may give them another shot when I sight it in this week
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I agree with Link. I have always found 2 777 50 pellets behind a 250 TC Shockwave to be very accurate. No need for max loads. I even use that combo in my Optima pistol. No more recoil than my Encore 44 mag.
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I may need to try some of the shockwaves. I use 2 777 pellets and a Win 209 primer in my cva and the 295 gr powerpelts. 3 to the right were right out of the cleaned oiled barrel. Adjusted scope, brushed it swabbed it the next 3 are close enough to kill a deer at 100yrds!


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I have at T/C Omega & an CVA Optima and they both shoot 150gr of Hodgdon Pyrodex (3 pellets) and the 250 gr T/C Shockwave sabots..... max charge shoots more consistantly in both of mine, groups very well and you never notice the difference really....I have never liked the powerbelts, too many people i know have lost too much game they never recovered... 250 gr easily enough to kill our whitetail and 3x bigger game....also, I will wet & dry swab (clean) my barrel after no more than 2 shots and if I am verifying my zero than I clean after every shot... a dirty barrel will affect accuracy... Good luck...
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