Microchips in H&K pistols - Pensacola Fishing Forum

Go Back   Pensacola Fishing Forum > Hunting/Shooting Forum > Hunting Firearms

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-08-2013, 06:56 AM   #1
Senior Member
Snapper
 
helo_hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Pace, FL or Sherman Cove or in the woods
Posts: 534
Default Microchips in H&K pistols

At the ERGC meeting last night, got to see a compact 45 caliber H&K pistol with a microchip in it. Hadn't heard about that before or if I did, I slept since then and wasn't properly retrained.
The gun owner checked with H&K on why the gun had the chip and was told that it was to track the gun while at the factory through the manufacturing process and for inventory purposes. The chip responses to a radio signal from up to 10 feet away and transmits the gun's info such as serial number.
While this makes sense from the factory, I pesonnally do not like the idea - anyone with the right signal could tell where the gun is if they are within 10 feet of the gun (there goes carrying concealed) to include pinpointing the gun in a vehicle. Too much like warrantless search that violates the Bill of Rights. Could be argued that that would be great for crowd control but again, violates the person carrying the gun Constitutional rights.
Do any other companies tag their guns this way?
__________________
NRA Training Counselor and Certified Instructor for Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Personal Protection in the Home, Personal Protection Outside the Home, Home Firearms Safety, Chief Range Safety Officer and Refuse To Be A Victim
helo_hunter is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 

Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-08-2013, 08:09 AM   #2
Senior Member
Grand Slam
 
Try'n Hard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Santa Rosa County & Minter AL
Posts: 14,295
Default

HK tags their guns for military and LEO's with these to keep up with round count for parts replacement. Sometimes those guns get into civilian hands. Never heard of being able to detect or communicate via radio signal. Way more complicated stuff is manufactured that don't have to have any microchips installed to keep up with them at the factory.... That don't sound right

Last edited by Try'n Hard; 02-08-2013 at 08:12 AM.
Try'n Hard is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-08-2013, 08:54 AM   #3
Bearded Brotula
Grand Slam
 
MrFish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Gulf Shores, AL
Posts: 11,345
Default

Where, exactly, was this microchip located?
__________________
Shooting tomorrow's trophies today.
MrFish is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-08-2013, 10:14 AM   #4
Senior Member
Blue Marlin
 
johnsonbeachbum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 5,012
Default

H & K is not the only ones.
There is talk (true or not?) of the ability to remotely disable the chipped firearm.
Just google "rfid chip in guns"
johnsonbeachbum is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-08-2013, 10:17 AM   #5
Senior Member
Grouper
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,044
Default

hah, i wont be buying anything like this, yet another reason to stick with my vintage obsession. im with mr. fish tho, wheres the chip at, take the thing out or disable it, a huge magnet should do the trick lol
__________________
keep the wet side down
rufus
rufus1138 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-08-2013, 10:23 AM   #6
Senior Member
Blue Marlin
 
johnsonbeachbum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 5,012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rufus1138 View Post
hah, i wont be buying anything like this, yet another reason to stick with my vintage obsession. im with mr. fish tho, wheres the chip at, take the thing out or disable it, a huge magnet should do the trick lol
You could disable or remove it.
But if it is or becomes a federal requirement, the feds will make it a felony if removed or disabled.
johnsonbeachbum is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-08-2013, 10:28 AM   #7
Senior Member
Grouper
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,044
Default

very true, i hope i got my sailboat ready to go when the time comes, ill just pack all my things that i need and leave, yall can handle the end without me.
__________________
keep the wet side down
rufus
rufus1138 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-08-2013, 10:41 AM   #8
Senior Member
Grouper
 
Dragsmoker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Alabama
Posts: 848
Default

I knew this was coming. Too bad there is going to be a lot of people that will tuck their tail in between there legs when the time comes...
Dragsmoker is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-08-2013, 11:40 AM   #9
Senior Member
Snapper
 
helo_hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Pace, FL or Sherman Cove or in the woods
Posts: 534
Default

Microchip was under the backstrap. Circular device that almost looked like a battery.

HK45 Owners Manual - From Section 2 Page 16 and I quote:
"Transponder (Optional)- Internal (molded-in) electronic data storage device. Permits permanent and changeable data (serial number, rack number, user name, round count, etc.) storage on pistol by operator, armorer."
__________________
NRA Training Counselor and Certified Instructor for Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Personal Protection in the Home, Personal Protection Outside the Home, Home Firearms Safety, Chief Range Safety Officer and Refuse To Be A Victim
helo_hunter is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-12-2013, 09:27 AM   #10
Senior Member
Grouper
 
DragonSlayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Beulah
Posts: 660
Default

This is kinda like the g'ment can't track your vehicle, right? It's almost hard to imagine that every move we make is tracked by some means of the g'ment.
__________________
"Nothing beats a try, like a failure."
DragonSlayer is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Pensacola Fishing Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:
How Did You Find Us?
Tell us how you heard about Pensacola Fishing Forum.

Log-in



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 RC 2
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.