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Old 02-10-2011, 12:29 PM   #1
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Since there isnt a dedicated thread for posting questions about firearms ill post here. Do any of you have any experiance with the Sabre Defense M4 or and Sabre products? Im thinking about a M4 build and like what I see so far.
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Since there isnt a dedicated thread for posting questions about firearms ill post here. Do any of you have any experiance with the Sabre Defense M4 or and Sabre products? Im thinking about a M4 build and like what I see so far.
Sabre will generally be considered one of the best in the market. I dont have any personal experience with their particular brand, but among the "kool-aid drinkers" sabre defense has a very good reputation with quality barrels. If you're custom building a rifle, you cant go wrong with a sabre defense barrel. If you're buying a completed rifle, I would generally say you could get near as much rifle for less cost. The thing about the ar15 rifle that people fail to realize is they are built to certain specifications as to where components from other manufacturers will all work in sync to complete a working rifle. Most of these parts are built to mil-spec standards and one brands wares are not superior to anothers. This of course is negating certain coatings and such, some offering easier cleanability and lubricity, generating less wear and requiring less lubricants to cycle. If you've got the cash moneys, by all means, sabre defense is generally accepted in the top tier of ar rifles.

If you think you may be over-spending, reply as such and I will help give you some options to look into. I'm no expert, but I have done my research and built a "few" ar rifles.
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Good stuff and I'd get whatever you want quickly.... Almost the entire management was recently arrested by BATF and the FBI

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Just know whatever you buy may not be supported unless another enity buys the tools and dies...It is a great product, have they suspended MFG yet and only selling what is in the supply chain?
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Just know whatever you buy may not be supported unless another enity buys the tools and dies...It is a great product, have they suspended MFG yet and only selling what is in the supply chain?
that is true but unless something is out of the ordinary, or manufactured out of spec, then any parts from any manufcaturer should work on the ar platform.
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Sabre will generally be considered one of the best in the market. I dont have any personal experience with their particular brand, but among the "kool-aid drinkers" sabre defense has a very good reputation with quality barrels. If you're custom building a rifle, you cant go wrong with a sabre defense barrel. If you're buying a completed rifle, I would generally say you could get near as much rifle for less cost. The thing about the ar15 rifle that people fail to realize is they are built to certain specifications as to where components from other manufacturers will all work in sync to complete a working rifle. Most of these parts are built to mil-spec standards and one brands wares are not superior to anothers. This of course is negating certain coatings and such, some offering easier cleanability and lubricity, generating less wear and requiring less lubricants to cycle. If you've got the cash moneys, by all means, sabre defense is generally accepted in the top tier of ar rifles.

If you think you may be over-spending, reply as such and I will help give you some options to look into. I'm no expert, but I have done my research and built a "few" ar rifles.
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Good stuff and I'd get whatever you want quickly.... Almost the entire management was recently arrested by BATF and the FBI

http://mssparky.com/tag/guy-savage/

Thanks for that info.
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Doesnt Sabre hold the Military contract or am I thinking wrong? If they did I imagine someone else will real soon.
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Check these guys out...I just got one and it is some of the best quality out there and their prices are not over-inflated.

http://www.tacticalmachining.com/
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Doesnt Sabre hold the Military contract or am I thinking wrong? If they did I imagine someone else will real soon.
They hold several, or did. I know that one of them was canceled immediately. I have a friend that works for them (not for long according to him....) He said they've stopped work on all military contracts. But stuff that was already in the process was completed and items that had already passed QC were allowed to be delivered.

He also said production of civilian market products has NOT stopped yet... but so many people are gone that production is very slow. Vendors have either stopped selling to them or are demanding payment before shipping.

He is NOT in upper management or involved in the shipping dept in any way. He also told me that the indictments continue and more and more people are getting "target letters". So it would seem that a fairly good number of folks had their hands in this in some form or another.

Although according to him some of them were just paper pushers that would have no way of knowing what was actually put into what crate etc. they were handed "pick lists" and told to do the customs paperwork etc.

Very disturbing that they (the authorities) knew something was going on for some time and continued to let it happen just so they could make a "bigger bust"

Kind of like the ATF letting all those ARs into Mexico just so they could build a bigger case against those involved on this side of the border.. and the Mexican police have already recovered some of them AFTER they were used to kill both civilians and police...

Makes me wonder what the hell they're thinking up there in those plush offices...

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