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Old 07-04-2018, 10:55 AM   #1
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I've become totally fascinated by lionfish and the spearing efforts going on currently. One thing I'm trying to understand: why is there not a rush of people going and taking up fishing? It seems like an incoming gold rush.

What am I getting wrong here?
  1. A single spearer can nag 25-100 lbs a day
  2. Demand is growing among restaurants and wholesalers quicker than supply can keep up
  3. The FWC is now paying $50 per trip if you snag 8 lbs per person or more
  4. There are no limits to how much someone can fish
  5. Gulf waters are fishable year-round
  6. It's an easy and peaceful fish to catch
  7. You're helping the reefs by killing the suckers

Looking for someone to rain on my parade and let me know why there isn't a bumrush of people on their way to spear lionfish
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It’s a novelty market like rattlesnake and such. There isn’t many buyers messing with it much up here. I haven’t seen it on a menu in a few years
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Itís a novelty market like rattlesnake and such. There isnít many buyers messing with it much up here. I havenít seen it on a menu in a few years
Especially when they started pricing it like grouper.
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Especially when they started pricing it like grouper.
Exactly!!! When you start promoting a fish that many people donít know anything about and thereís an ass ton of them and easy to harvest, prices should start out low!! Simple economics!!! Iím not paying over $20 a pound at a restaurant for that bland fish
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I thought people like chris Sherell was raving about them not long ago? Come to thin of it, I haven't seen him online as of late, is he still out on the key/OB in the food business?
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I haven't heard the fear mongering like over the past few years. One day we will look back at the lionfish invasion like we now do for the snakehead invasion, killer bees, acid rain and various other things that were going to end our happy little existences.
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I thought people like chris Sherell was raving about them not long ago? Come to thin of it, I haven't seen him online as of late, is he still out on the key/OB in the food business?
He pulled out of Salt after 6 months or so and opened a new place in the old Nolans in Gulf Shores.
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I thought people like chris Sherell was raving about them not long ago? Come to thin of it, I haven't seen him online as of late, is he still out on the key/OB in the food business?
Heís hopped all over since his Birmingham days.
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Heís hopped all over since his Birmingham days.
Being shady tends to put you on the run.
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Especially when they started pricing it like grouper.
Is there anyone out there who regularly sells to the registered wholesalers? Eyeballing the numbers, it looks like there's consistently a demand larger than the supply:

http://myfwc.com/media/4414236/lfwho...ishmar2018.pdf

I guess one other important questions from locals in FL, around the Gulf... Is the issue that consumers have an aversion **because** it's lionfish ("rat of the sea"), or is it rather that it's simply too expensive compared to other similar fishes?

I ask because the former seems like a perception issue and the latter is a logistical issue (too many middlemen marking it up).

Lionfish seems like an inverse of Asian carp... Asian carp are too easy to catch (the literally jump into your boat), and dirt cheap, but distributors can't get Americans to eat them because they're stigmatized as unappetizing. On the other hand, lionfish are seen as tasty, but are very hard to catch and inasmuch expensive.

Thanks for all the replies so far~
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