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Old 09-02-2014, 09:41 AM   #1
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Hit the Nipple Sunday, was rough getting out there, but once the waves organized and smoothed out it was pretty nice.

Flying fish were scattered and so were the patches of blue/green water. We had a triple or quad knockdown on a wide range but no hookup... couldn't figure out how that many hits without a hookup... pulled the lure in and the point of the hook was broken off. Probably just about 1/16 or 1/8" of the tip, but plenty enough to keep it from sticking in good.

There were lots of boats but didn't see anyone hooked up.

We are new to the area, what VHF channel do most in the area chatter on? I scanned most of the day and couldn't find any good comm. There were lots of boats out there, figured somebody would be talking.

Anybody else have any luck Sat/Sun/Mon?
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Old 09-02-2014, 10:03 AM   #2
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What was your spread? Rods/Reels, line class, lures, baits, speed, etc?
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This ^^^

May seem like a bunch of questions, but it'll help you fine-tune for our area. There was a tournament this weekend which usually minimizes radio chatter but 68, 69 and 72 typically have the most communication
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Old 09-02-2014, 10:36 AM   #4
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3 x 50 Wides (2 x 80lb mono, 1 x 130lb dacron with 100lb mono topshot)

4 x 30's (1 x 80lb mono, 3 50lb mono)


My main spread this weekend was....

Naked small ballyhoo shotgun (circle hook rig on 60lb fluoro)
Naked small ballyhoo flatline short shotgun (circle hook rig on 60lb fluoro)

Bird/teaser short flatline port
stripteaser with tuna feather trailer short flatline stbd

Moldcraft Wide Range Senior Blue/White/Pearl port rigger
Moldcraft Wide Range Senior Black/Silver/Purple stbd rigger (this is the one that got hit)

Worked multiple lures in shotgun and short shotgun... anything from small tuna feathers, 6" flat nose...etc.

I started out trolling around 7knts, but it seemed like I was going faster than most boats out there, slowed it to 5-6knts, but didn't see any change in action.

I have a box full of skirts/feathers/lures. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!

Here is a pic of the boat if it helps.

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welcome to the area.

There were some nice fish caught out there this past weekend. Seems that you had something out there that they wanted. I'm anxious to hear what the rest of the spread looked like.

Biggest question is, did you have a hook file on board and do you check your hooks every day plus touch them up. Broken hook points and curled hook points usually mean that your filing angle is too fine. Hooks can be sharp without having extremely 'long' points. Fished with a guy recently who insisted that this is the way he always fished his hooks. Points ended up getting curled on several fish. Sharp doesn't mean 'long' points.

Bites are just too hard to get. All possible variables need to be eliminated.
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welcome to the area.

There were some nice fish caught out there this past weekend. Seems that you had something out there that they wanted. I'm anxious to hear what the rest of the spread looked like.

Biggest question is, did you have a hook file on board and do you check your hooks every day plus touch them up. Broken hook points and curled hook points usually mean that your filing angle is too fine. Hooks can be sharp without having extremely 'long' points. Fished with a guy recently who insisted that this is the way he always fished his hooks. Points ended up getting curled on several fish. Sharp doesn't mean 'long' points.

Bites are just too hard to get. All possible variables need to be eliminated.
Hook file was in the truck at the marina... I re-rigged that lure on the water with a good hook and put it back in the spread, of course no more knockdowns on it

I will be checking all hooks for sharpness from now on before they go in the water. That lesson has now been learned
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When you got the bites, did the bait just pop out or was some drag being pulled? Sounds like a perfect opportunity to have a 'pitch' bait ready with a small moldcraft chugger in front and pull the Wide Range away.

Of course, it all came down to a broken point on the hook.
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Are your hooks carbon or stainless steel? Do you know the hook, model number? The reason I ask all these questions is that there is something for a lot of people to learn here. You have been very forthcoming and it is much appreciated.

You guys got yourself into the right area, with the right bait and something, seemingly, as insignificant as a hook file, on the truck seat, derailed the result.

You sound like a guy who won't make that mistake again. It is tough. You are up till late hours, getting everything ready but filing the hooks every morning is a 'MUST DO' and scaling the drags often or every day is also a must.

Keep at it. The fishing is getting as good as it's been all year and will probably just get better. Let us know how you do in the future.
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When you got the bites, did the bait just pop out or was some drag being pulled? Sounds like a perfect opportunity to have a 'pitch' bait ready with a small moldcraft chugger in front and pull the Wide Range away.

Of course, it all came down to a broken point on the hook.
It popped the clip and stripped drag hard! I'd say there was 2-3 secs of heavy pulling then nothing.... Lure pops up and it's hit again... same thing, and again... I'm like WTH?? It was on one of the 50w's with 80lb mono.
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Are your hooks carbon or stainless steel? Do you know the hook, model number? The reason I ask all these questions is that there is something for a lot of people to learn here. You have been very forthcoming and it is much appreciated.

You guys got yourself into the right area, with the right bait and something, seemingly, as insignificant as a hook file, on the truck seat, derailed the result.

You sound like a guy who won't make that mistake again. It is tough. You are up till late hours, getting everything ready but filing the hooks every morning is a 'MUST DO' and scaling the drags often or every day is also a must.

Keep at it. The fishing is getting as good as it's been all year and will probably just get better. Let us know how you do in the future.
Hooks are carbon, Mustad J's. Not certain the exact model number.
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