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Old 01-09-2014, 01:31 PM   #1
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I'm new to offshore fishing. Have 3 trips under my belt. Did ok In snapper season but I would like to find some ajs and grouper. How far out do I need to go to find them? Is there a certain kind of structure I should look for? What kind of depth should I start dropping a line? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I could use any help u can give about finding bait fish as well.
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Old 01-09-2014, 02:24 PM   #2
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AJs like structure with high relief. Start at any large public wreck in 80ft + of water. Youll typically find a better quality fish in deeper water but keepers occasionally can be caught in the shallower water.

Grouper will be on anything really from the bay on out but its hard to beat natural reefs and ledges. Head out to the edge and watch your graph.

Bait is really easy too. The Mass is a great spot, the buoys around either pass. When the bait is thick just go where all the other boats are catching bait in the morning. Again, use your bottom machine. I prefer size 8 green head/white body sabikis. I spend the extra for the fluro ones if the water is clear. This is to catch cigs, sardines and threadfin.

During the warmer months take a sabiki and tip it with small pieces of fish bites or squid and hit up a bridge or docks and load up on pinfish. Still grab live cigs on the way out too.

Catch ruby red lips and small porgy on a chicken rig and drop them back down if youre a gluten for punishment.
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Old 01-09-2014, 03:32 PM   #3
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AJs like structure with high relief. Start at any large public wreck in 80ft + of water.
Catch ruby red lips and small porgy on a chicken rig and drop them back down if youre a gluten for punishment.


You can also jig, wear ya out but not much of a waiting game

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Great info thanks both of you. Great video also. I had alot of questions about jigging, you answered alot with that video.
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awesome video! !
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20 of them will put a cramp in your hand. I watched one of our fellow PFF members do that last year and he had to pry his fingers open with the other hand after the last one. Pharmer (Chad) is hard core.
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Yes sir. I remember that day well. One of the most fun trips I've ever had on the water.
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The OLE Wanna Get It Done!

What size boat do you have ? How far off shore are you willing to go? Sure you can play with small fish in the surf or you can run and play with the BIG dogs. There some areas about 30 miles out that you can catch AJ's and Grouper. Typically catch bigger fish farther offshore? When I go fishing I don't like to stop till I'm 30 miles out. Small Amberjack are fun as hell to catch!! Lots of pumping and winding when caught on light tackle.

"GET'EM OFF THE BOTTOM"
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The OLE Wanna Get It Done!

What size boat do you have ? How far off shore are you willing to go? Sure you can play with small fish in the surf or you can run and play with the BIG dogs. There some areas about 30 miles out that you can catch AJ's and Grouper. Typically catch bigger fish farther offshore? When I go fishing I don't like to stop till I'm 30 miles out. Small Amberjack are fun as hell to catch!! Lots of pumping and winding when caught on light tackle.

"GET'EM OFF THE BOTTOM"
I have a 22' WAC Seaswirl Striper. I have been about 35 miles out with no problem. But there is alot of water out there and I have found alot of the public numbers ore no good, or my bottom machine just isn't good enough to show them. I hope to get a better one before this season starts. I have a Humminbird side scan on my bass/crappie boat. I was thinking of just getting another transducer for it. Does anyone have any opinion about using one of these in the gulf/deep water? I definitely don't mind going out that far, just thought I may be wasting some fuel if I was overlooking anything closer. Someone said" head to the edge and watch your bottom graph". should I head towards the east end or the west end of the "edge"? I am under the impression that the water gets deep quicker to the east from Pensacola. Is that correct?
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Run due south of the pass and once you get into 180' you are at the beginning of the edge. From there you can run south east or south west and it will be all natural bottom.
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