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Old 08-13-2013, 11:17 AM   #1
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Can some of you tell me what kind of setups you use when fishing around grass or any other floating debris offshore, or even out in open water with a lure like a popper? I guess my main question is: do you use some kind of large diameter mono/flouro leader between your main line and lure to keep from being bitten off ? Thanks for any advice.
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Single Strand wire, in case of Wahoo. Coffee colored and as long as you can comfortably cast. Most of your line is out of the water, anyway, when using topwater; so, it's hard for the fish to see the wire plus they are focused on all the commotion of the popper.
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Thanks for the pointer. Is there a reason that you use single strand instead of seven strand which is more loose and does not kink as bad ?
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I prefer throwing a few pieces of cut cigs around the grass and see what comes out to feed. Keep a rod always ready with a mono leader and 5/0 to 6/0 hook with no weight. If dolphin come out it's your best bet with a cig or cut cig attached according to what size dolphin you see. On floating objects such as tree or pallet, drop a 6 inch bonita style lure with leader straight down hundred ft or so with a spining rod and reel up as fast as you can for wahoo. With a floating object you can see pretty much what's around when your pulling up to it.
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There shouldn't be any reason to put wire or the top water lure. Just tie a 3 foot section of 40-60 lb Flurocarbon with a uni to uni knot to the main line. As for the vertical jig mentioned above it should have a wire leader. I can't stress enough the single 5/0 hook with no wieght also mentioned above as a pitch rod for live/cut bait to mahi.
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Thanks for the pointer. Is there a reason that you use single strand instead of seven strand which is more loose and does not kink as bad ?
Multi-strand wire will not hold up to the teeth of a Wahoo. Of course, mono or flouro has no chance. Lots of people use Flouro leaders on poppers and it is better for action and fooling sharp eyed tunas but you have to be prepared to lose some poppers to Wahoo and the unexpected Kingfish.

Using poppers or diving lures around weed lines will catch lots of grass unless you are very careful to avoid stray bits. I've caught several Wahoos on dead bait with single strand and have seen them avoid the bait and grab the leader first, on purpose. You end up foul hooking these Wahoo and the wire is through their mouth. The design of their teeth will cut one strand, at a time, of multi-strand until there is no strength left there.

The advice on chunking is good but I like to prospect the lines with hair-tailed jigs to see what runs out before I start chunking.
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Thanks guys. I do appreciate the replies and answers
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