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Old 07-10-2017, 04:21 PM   #1
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Hey guys I'm looking for some advice on rigging for bottom fishing.
While I've been pretty lucky this season getting on some big fish and landing them this past Saturday was a bit disappointing.
I ran out close to the nipple Saturday and the fish on the first spot I stopped at handed me and a good buddy a complete ass beating .we managed one nice scamp and got broken off using 50# , 60# , 80# and 100# florucarbon leaders ...
the fish we where hooking up with had a lot of head shake and could peel drag off 6 o pen senators .
I think maybe we hit a spot with some good Grouper or some really nice sow snapper ,
For a solid two hours we had one bit after another.
Have any of you guys ever hit a spot like this and if so did y'all step up to wire leaders to keep from getting broke off ?
Any advice to help me get these fish to the boat would be great .
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Are you getting cut off or breaking knots?
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Splittine asked the right question. I have had floro break under strain at the knot, whereas mono seems to tolerate the knot better. I now use 80# mono leader and break off less I think. Also if you are using braid there's no stretch so drag settings are crucial.
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Guys the leaders where getting freyed up really bad like the gill plates on a snapper's head sometimes will do to fishing line any where from 8" to 12" back from the hook knot and I snell knot my hooks ...wasn't knotted failures
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I generally use a 8' shot of leader so if I have to cut the hook off and retie my hook i have enough leader to retie a few times before using a new shot of leader .
Saturday was expensive, we went though about 100 yards of leader material and over 30 hooks .... I normally don't go thought that much tackle in a whole year ...I've caught sharks before guys and these fish we where hanging didn't fight like a shark they pulled like snapper's
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Frayed from snapper gill plates?! I must admit, out of thousands of snapper I've caught charter fishing I've never seen that.

I run 65lb braid, about 20ft of 60lb fluro with an FG knot to a Carolina rig. I use 60lb fluro if I'm fishing my bait higher in the column and 80-100# mono if I'm dragging bottom. I use simple uni knots for all of my connections other than the FG. I lock my Penn 25LDs down to a point that most people can barely hold the rod. I've found you can put way more heat on 60lb than you think. Thumb that spool and get the head turned. Once the fish has it's head turned, keep it turned with short quick pumps.

Assuming you're not tangling with giant jewfish or big sharks, your gear is fine for any snapper you'll run into and 98% of the grouper. Again, lay the wood down at first and get that head and keep it turned!
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Sounds like y'all need a gym membership then. And you're not getting frayed on the gill plates. You're in the wreck.
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Leaders that strong and you see abrasions like that means only 1 thing!
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your getting sharked or somethings taking you into the wreck.
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Send me those GPS numbers and i'll check them out for ya and let ya know whats down there.
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