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Old 01-10-2019, 02:25 PM   #11
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I thought it was just me. I've been trying for three years with dismal results. Maybe 10 fish per year; wading and boat.
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Old 01-10-2019, 08:13 PM   #12
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Yes run by 2 old ladys always had 3 or 4 old men eating those in those days 11 inch size Flounder. Those were the good old days. No money plenty of time no regulations. A hell of a day to walk away from that back door with 10 or 11 bucks in hand.

i know whatcha mean, ron. good ole days.

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Old 01-11-2019, 10:46 AM   #13
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Increasing the size limit from 12" to 14" will allow the juvenile female Southern flounder to mature an contribute to the spawn which would have an impact on the number of juvenile flounder recruiting into the fishery. In other words protect the young flounder til they can spawn after their first year.
Southern Flounder males and females grow rapidly ...male's achieve 3/4 -1 lb in a year,females about the same . Yet the female has not reached spawning maturity . it is the second year that nearly 100% of the year class have .
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I'm ok with all the above...
  • shut it down in the winter (too cold to wade that time of year anyway)
  • increase the size limit to 14" (I don't stick any that are smaller than that unless I'm desperate)
  • Decrease the possession limit to 6 (If I get 6 in a night I consider that a real good night, especially here lately.)
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Put All the Shrimp and Net Boats out in the Gulf, Prohibiting them fishing any intracoastal waterway, bay, river, etc.
Then they will all grow up, plus the shrimp, specs, croakers, mullet, drum, etc.

It's not going to happen, but it'd be nice if it did.
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Old 01-12-2019, 11:12 AM   #16
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Take the shrimp off the list. Shrimp only live one year. The season is closed until after last years shrimp have reached a legal size and spawned. Then the shrimpers can catch them. There is always legal good size shrimp to be caught. FWC trawls and regulates opening day by size of shrimp.
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Put All the Shrimp and Net Boats out in the Gulf, Prohibiting them fishing any intracoastal waterway, bay, river, etc.
Then they will all grow up, plus the shrimp, specs, croakers, mullet, drum, etc.

It's not going to happen, but it'd be nice if it did.
Your right. They want close shrimping in late fall early winter. Shrimp I wouldn't worry about but it would save a lot of others you mention .
There are tons of baby flounder killed in nets along with others. I also think the size limit should be raised.
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Take the shrimp off the list. Shrimp only live one year. The season is closed until after last years shrimp have reached a legal size and spawned. Then the shrimpers can catch them. There is always legal good size shrimp to be caught. FWC trawls and regulates opening day by size of shrimp.
I'm sure, but I was referring to the tons of Bypass juvenile fish killed while shrimping.
Thing is, my cousin used to shrimp from his 16' trihull boat years ago. Nothing spectacular, but I can't recall him having very much bypass if any at all. And he caught more shrimp than he could use at times, and sold the rest. Of course he didn't drag the bottom either, unlike commercial shrimp boats which amass tons of bypass juvenile fish which don't make it when finally tossed back over.
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i may be mistaken but i think new born flounder are born swimming vertical and then the mature and swim horizontal.
i remember seeing one near a piling as a youth that was vertically swimming with one eye on each side of its body.
Here's a interesting article clip retrieved from: http://gcrl.usm.edu/public/fish/flounder.php


They swim upright with a side-to-side motion of the tail. As the larva mature they are transported by currents and tides into the shallow water of bays and estuaries.

Metamorphosis and Eye Migration
The stages of the southern flounder from early larva through settlement as a juvenile.
Near the end of their larval period, 30 to 60 days after hatching and at a length of 1/3 to 1/2 inch, the larval flounder settle to the bottom and begin a strange and complex metamorphosis. The skeletal system, muscles, and nerves of the head gradually rearrange themselves and the right eye moves to the left side of the head. The body also adapts to allow the fish to lie on the bottom and swim with its left side up using an up-and-down motion.
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Yes sir you are right. At that point they want be caught in net because of size. When they reach the size of 2 in or better they will be caught in the net. Most pull the net at least an hour or longer. At this point they are killed. Most nets are at least an 1 1'4 in on the mesh size.
It's tuff for the baby flounder to escape . It's one of the things I hated about shrimping because of the by catch that is killed. It is what it is.
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