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Old 11-27-2012, 08:01 PM   #1
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For the last month, my total haul of fish has been a whopping 6 catfish and 1 very large cownose ray. I've fished primarily on the weekends, but occasionally during the week, mostly in the late afternoon/evening time frame. Most of the fishing has been done at various places at NASP, but I've also made a handful of trips to Johnson Beach. I've tried using sandfleas (when I could still find them- another topic of interest), dead shrimp, peeled shrimp, cut bait, spoons, jigs, gotchas, and a whole assortment of other lures. I've tried yaking out whole fresh blue fish and large chunks of other cut bait for sharks or bull reds. All this has got me nothing. Any tips/suggestions? Getting frustrated seeing everyone talk about catching tons of whiting, reds, blues, pomps, and sharks, while I land a 6 oz catfish... if I get a bite at all.

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Old 11-27-2012, 08:55 PM   #2
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It's all about the tide and wind in my opinion....when it's flat calm I don't catch much. Need a little surf to stir it up and a rising tide, preferably within 2-3 hours of high tide. When the barometer starts dropping and the surf picks up a bit, that's the time to go.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:02 PM   #3
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the only other thought I have is: when I started fishing here, I started by using the 2-hook drop rigs that you buy at walmart etc. I had about the same result as you. I have found that the rigging of my leaders affects hookup/bite ratio. When I went to hand tied mono, using smaller swivels, and a carolina rig, I started catching way more....

If by chance you're using pre-fab drop rigs and fishing with a pyramid weight? I would suggest learning to tie your own 2-hook dropper rig out of mono, and/or using a carolina rig setup with an anti-roll sinker; instead of drop style rigs.
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the only other thought I have is: when I started fishing here, I started by using the 2-hook drop rigs that you buy at walmart etc. I had about the same result as you. I have found that the rigging of my leaders affects hookup/bite ratio. When I went to hand tied mono, using smaller swivels, and a carolina rig, I started catching way more....

If by chance you're using pre-fab drop rigs and fishing with a pyramid weight? I would suggest learning to tie your own 2-hook dropper rig out of mono, and/or using a carolina rig setup with an anti-roll sinker; instead of drop style rigs.

Funny you mention that because until last November I always tied my own rigs. I decided to fish two poles all month with one being a store bought "tourist" rig and the other my own hand tied rig. I am sad to say the store bought rig caught fish at almost a 2-1 rate and that was with over 12 surf fishing trips that month. Maybe it was pure luck, I don't know, but I don't tie my own surf rigs anymore.
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I use a combination of both store-bought rigs and homemade ones, generally more of the store-bought because throughout the spring/summer they outfished my homemade rigs as well. Can you describe the set up you use for your carolina rigs?
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talk to pompano joe on the PFF. He is the expert in my book.
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I use a combination of both store-bought rigs and homemade ones, generally more of the store-bought because throughout the spring/summer they outfished my homemade rigs as well. Can you describe the set up you use for your carolina rigs?


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talk to pompano joe on the PFF. He is the expert in my book.
I ain't Pompano Joe, but I did stay at the Holiday Inn one time. I will attempt to describe the Carolina, Slide or Fish Finder Rig; as I know it.

You put an egg(or a pyramid) sinker on your line. You then tie a black swivel to the end of your line. You attach the leader to the other end of the swivel. At the end of your leader, tie a bead and a 1 or 1/0 Circle hook.

Some people insist on Fluorocarbon for leader material. JMHO C2

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If you have shifty and strong currents the carolina rig is susceptible to some nasty tangles
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When you have strong shifting currents, you don t use a FF Rig: you use a Dropper Rig of some type. I use a single dropper Flapper Rig. A simple double dropper rig is also subject to tangles.JMHO. C2

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I've used primarily double dropper rigs and I've made my own carolina rigs and fish finder rigs as well. I've never had any luck with the fish finder rigs. How long are the carolina/fish finder rigs that you use?
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