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Old 06-17-2009, 02:03 PM   #21
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First of all, if gas prices and the federal government keep going at the present rate, you might consider yourself lucky to be able to eat sand fleas before much longer.

I can remember growing up, and my best friend's dad would stand over us as we cleaned the fish because he would not let us waste a single scrap. There was no filleting of fish. We even cut the fish at the gills to remove the head. I guess you guys never heard of "bream throats" but that is exactly what they ate on a regular basis.

The reason for it was they were poor. My friend was a major source of food in their household. When we went fishing/hunting, it was for dinner. We even ate softshelled turtles. If you cut the soft edges off of the shell and fry them, it is a bit like fried eggplant. We would pressure cook the turtle meat, then make turtle stew or lightly fry it.

I fried up some spanish last week and thought it was very good. Never caught any pinfish that was big enough to eat.

I have eaten red horse suckers before. We used to catch them by the truckload in gillnets. They have hundreds of tiny bones that require you to "gash" the meat ever 1/4 inch to the backbone, then fry them. The bones get crunchy, and are completely edible after cooking.

For the record, I think mullet and flounder are some of the best fish anyone can ask for. Snapper is good, but I would take flounder any day of the week.
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Old 06-17-2009, 08:00 PM   #22
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I doubt many people on this forum have ever scalded hogs either..... Only way to get the hair to turn loose after you kill hogs. Only worth doing it if you want pork skins....

My question (and I was wondering this on tuesday, might even start a new thread) is if you can freeze blue crab. I see it in joe patti's all the time. Looks like they cleaned the crab, then froze it in ziplock bags. If it would work, I would like to freeze some to have during the winter months when they are less plentiful. Anyone have any experience??
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Old 06-18-2009, 12:22 AM   #23
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ive been freezing blue crabs for as long as ive been eatin them. i always clean them first though.. i actually have never cooked live crabs. i always throw my crabs in a cooler full of ice. have never had a problem with bacteria.. and blue crabs are one of my favorite seafoods!! as far as eating hardheads....i think ill pass. i can go out on any given day and catch a fish that tastes better than that so im not gonna waste my time. but im not gonna look down on you for doin it. you wanna eat a hardhead or a bonito or even a nasty ole skipjack, go right ahead
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Old 06-18-2009, 12:39 AM   #24
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"Bream throats"? Was you smoking a lot of weed back then too?
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Old 06-18-2009, 01:22 AM   #25
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I can honestly say that I have never smoked weed. Couple or three marlboros, but no weed. We did not think of it as eating bream throats. It was only eating what was available.
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Old 06-18-2009, 01:59 AM   #26
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nyjpd (6/16/2009)Ok... the hard head cat & pinfish stuff was interesting. But frying up lady fish orbonito -->>> OMG. Nextpost will express the attributes ofgrilling hard tails and jack cavaleia.

However, I will say that a sail top cat is equal to any fresh water cat (including flat heads). Back in the 60's it was on the menu of the few resturants in Foley / Gulf Shores. (Note: back then OBA was a small green sign just past 161 on canal road.)

Tip - One must trim the filet for all white meat. Fried or blackend is excellent.
don't know about grilled, but fried hard tails are good. would love to catch some 5 pounders and try 'em grilled !
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:24 AM   #27
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Wow I never heard someone say "Bream throats".... oke
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Old 06-18-2009, 11:51 AM   #28
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Gafftop = crucifix fish.

http://www.lafishmag.com/CrucifixFish.html
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Old 06-18-2009, 12:25 PM   #29
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I've been eating hardheads for some time now and there are a couple tricks I use on them and other undesirable species.

The first thing I do is cut the gill rakers to bleed the fish. This makes a mess but is a big help in cleaning up the flesh. The second thing I do is to try and keep a cooler with an ice and saltwater slurry. As soon as you cut the gills dump the fish in icewater. From what I can gather this sends the fis into a kind of hyopthermis. The blood is redirected to the internal organs. So alonk with the bleeding and the ice bath the meat is suprisingly clean and white. Keep the fish very cold and there should be no problem cleaning them.

Actually I prefer hardheads to the sail cat's. If you've ever had the gritty aisain catfish/grouper sold at some local resteraunts it's about the same. It's a little weird in that it doesn't seem to flake like regular fish. Not bad but strange.
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Old 06-18-2009, 12:35 PM   #30
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Its not really bream throats. My g-pa does it. Not as much now, but we used to do it a lot when I was little. Scale the fish, cut the head off, gut the fish, batter and fry. You eat the meat off the bones, the fins become real crunchy. I was never a huge fan, but my dad and g-pa ate the hell outta them.
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