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Old 07-30-2018, 02:51 PM   #1
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Hi all, I am new to saltwater fishing since this last calendar year. I have fallen in love with it and am trying to get better. I currently wade fish mostly Pensacola bay and occasionally surf fish. I have had success with catching slot reds on Carolinas and live shrimp; however, I am trying to make the change to artificials. The past couple weeks I have fished I have pretty much struck out not including a few undersized trout. I’ve been doing a ton of research as to how to find better spots, more structure, and correct targeting and presentation but am having no luck. I feel like I’m finding good areas with grass flats, holes, docks, and channels, but no luck. I’m trying to catch mainly redfish and have tried thoroughly fishing grass flats both shallow and deep with popping cork/doa, gulp shrimp on jig, and mr-17 (never caught one on this) with the occasional topwater early morning and glassy conditions. I usually go from 5am-9am and try to time it right with incoming tides and good conditions. Any tips you all can give me from the info I’ve provided you with? I’m beginning to think I just suck at presentation with the artificials, but it just seems like I’m missing something.

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I hate to say it, but it sounds like you might suck at presentation. If you have been successful with live bait, then that means you have found good locations. Keep researching, keep trying, pay attention to what presentation catches each fish. Or pay an inshore guide for a day.... that's what I would do....
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I hate to say it, but it sounds like you might suck at presentation. If you have been successful with live bait, then that means you have found good locations. Keep researching, keep trying, pay attention to what presentation catches each fish. Or pay an inshore guide for a day.... that's what I would do....
Not what I wanted to hear, but kinda what I was expecting. Thanks for the info. I’ll keep doing my research and working on technique. I’ve thought about using a guide before so I may do that too.
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MR-17's are deadly when worked properly. Get yourself a 1/2 ounce Gold Johnson Sprite also.
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MR-17's are deadly when worked properly. Get yourself a 1/2 ounce Gold Johnson Sprite also.
Gonna try that spoon. My silver spoon has caught a couple of bluefish and one small Spanish.
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Silver works fantastic on most fish but Gold puts it on the redfish.
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I see a lot of rookies using too much terminal tackle. Tie directly to 10 or 12 lb test line, and don't use swivels or leaders unless you're losing lures to spanish. This time of year isn't the best for wading, but keep working on it. Youtube is your friend for presentation advice as well.
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I see a lot of rookies using too much terminal tackle. Tie directly to 10 or 12 lb test line, and don't use swivels or leaders unless you're losing lures to spanish. This time of year isn't the best for wading, but keep working on it. Youtube is your friend for presentation advice as well.
Yeah I’m on 30lb braid with 25lb floro. No swivels tho. Would you go down to 15 braid with no floro leader?
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Yeah Iím on 30lb braid with 25lb floro. No swivels tho. Would you go down to 15 braid with no floro leader?
15 # braid and 15# to 20# fluoro.
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Yeah Iím on 30lb braid with 25lb floro. No swivels tho. Would you go down to 15 braid with no floro leader?



I'd go to 10 or 12 lb regular mono fishing line and tie directly to that. If you have to use a leader, put on about 2' of fluoro and tie it with a double surgeon's knot. I've never liked braid for light tackle inshore. No give in the line makes it hard to work a lure.
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