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Old 05-26-2013, 01:45 PM   #11
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I disagree. I've seen 12 year olds pull 15 trout in 10 minutes from a dock with frozen shrimp simply because there was a school there. That same concept applies anytime you find a school with even the slightest amount of guidance (or a fish finder), which is at everybody's fingertips these days. Redfish are similar, as if you find their preferred haunts in response to environmental conditions you can sight fish them and they'll hammer tons of baits that are worked incorrectly. Not to mention that you'll catch them from time to time fishing for trout.

I believe guides provide a wonderful service and I wouldn't discourage anybody from using one if they wanted to. The problem is that suggesting that if you don't give one a car payment that it will take years to learn how to catch fish consistently is a bit ridiculous. If you prefer and have the means to spend that kind of money on the information rather than gathering it yourself then that's awesome. I'm just saying that it can be done on your own, for free, and it can be done in a week, not years.

Suggesting that someone who is inexperienced can gain a fraction of the knowledge that a guide has in one week is absurd. Finding fishs' prferred haunts and how they respond to enviromental conditons is not something that an inexperienced inshore angler puts together in one week or a couple of trips.
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Old 05-26-2013, 02:47 PM   #12
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I am looking for a charter to show me more about inshore fishing, I am looking for what to look for in spots, baits and techniques. I'm not looking to get a secret spot, just want to learn how to catch fish on the flats. Thanks
I've went with captain Bill Willis, owner of lost bay outfitters, he will teach a few techniques. I taught myself most of what I know about saltwater through trial and error and one day on the water with himtaught me more then I had picked up in six months of trial and error. he'sone outta two guides I've fished with here and he's leaps and bounds over the other one.
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Old 05-26-2013, 02:51 PM   #13
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I am looking for a charter to show me more about inshore fishing, I am looking for what to look for in spots, baits and techniques. I'm not looking to get a secret spot, just want to learn how to catch fish on the flats. Thanks
Hello, David,
I'm Capt. John Rivers, and I run Mega-Bite Inshore Charters. I have been guiding these waters for over 10 years and I specialize in flats artificial fishing in all the surrounding waterways of Pensacola, Navarre and Perdido Key, which I've been doing now for the past 5 years, . I also do some of the pass both live and dead bait fishing from time to time, but artificials are my forte.

Let me recommend myself along with two other guides in our area that can provide you with professional fishing trip if you want all artificials.
My # is 850-341-9816
Capt. Wes, 850-982-7858 or Capt. Chris Williams, 850-712-1712,

Dabutcher is exactly right when it comes to fishing the flats as well as taking more than a week to learn what works. Yes, you can use popping corks, and I do from time to time when my clients don't want artificials or just can't get the hang of using them or casting, but to truly master the art of flats fishing with artificials it take many months and even years of fishing an area to learn what works and why it works.

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Hey Captain Rivers,

I fish primarily Blackwater Bay, you said you have knowledge of the Navarre area but how far up does your knowledge reach? I wouldn't mind learning to target Red and Black Drum on the flats going down to the Catfish Basin area. Something close to the house so I won't burn a lot of fuel.
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Hey Captain Rivers,

I fish primarily Blackwater Bay, you said you have knowledge of the Navarre area but how far up does your knowledge reach? I wouldn't mind learning to target Red and Black Drum on the flats going down to the Catfish Basin area. Something close to the house so I won't burn a lot of fuel.
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I know it pretty well I fish it a lot in the Winter / Spring and some in the summer months. I know Escambia Bay very well too. Just give me a ring on my cell sometime and we'll talk about setting something up.
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Sounds good, what are your going rates and how many people can you carry?
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I'd recommend Capt Eric Holtsman of Redfish University. He's the most knowledgeable guide that's fishes the upper bays and river mouths. He spends 90% of his time up there and has been putting his clients on nice specks and reds daily.
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Sounds good, what are your going rates and how many people can you carry?
Here are my rates, If it's just you, I'll cut you a deal.
http://www.megabiteinshore.com/rates.htm

Here is my facebook page for you to see what I've been catching from my past trips.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mega-...4039380?ref=hl
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Suggesting that someone who is inexperienced can gain a fraction of the knowledge that a guide has in one week is absurd. Finding fishs' prferred haunts and how they respond to enviromental conditons is not something that an inexperienced inshore angler puts together in one week or a couple of trips.
You are dead on.
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I'd recommend Capt Eric Holtsman of Redfish University. He's the most knowledgeable guide that's fishes the upper bays and river mouths. He spends 90% of his time up there and has been putting his clients on nice specks and reds daily.
Check out his FB page to keep up on his reports.
https://m.facebook.com/#!/profile.ph...ser=1094408627
Awesome recommendation. I see him all over. I am 50, but not to old to learn new tricks. I read lots of post from RFU. He knows his stuff.

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