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Old 11-16-2011, 08:39 AM   #11
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Smile Thanks Captain...I got a lot out of that.

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The Bulls will be around for the remainder of the year and well into the Spring. There is no real rhyme or reason as to when or where they will "POP". I usually like to look for them early in the morning or around Mid Day. Birds are the primary target, run either the Beaches in either direction or run the Bay from 3 Mile to the Pass.

Once the fish "POP" the birds will congregate over them and will give their location away. Make your run towards the school and shut down either up wind or up current let your boat drift into then naturally. You can present any lure or fly to the fish when they are feeding like this. They will hit anything... The Pass will have them everyday but that is a deep water fishery and totally different approach.

Some days they are everywhere, some days they just don't pop.. Keep running and gunning and you will quickly figure them out!! If you ever have any questions please feel free to ask!!!!!!

The main thing I heard was: " There is no real rhyme or reason as to when or where they will "POP". I usually like to look for them early in the morning or around Mid Day".

I've been wondering if there were some trends I should look for (tides, time of day, water temp, wind direction etc.) but it sounds like that's not the case...just go and look.

What's that old expression, "you pays your money and you takes your chances"

Thanks again.
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Old 11-16-2011, 08:57 PM   #12
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Looks like come Feb. 2012 you guys can keep 2 per person...
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:36 PM   #13
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Are they changing the size limits too?
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:10 PM   #14
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according to the article, quanity only; slot same 17" - 27"... but it's a step in the right direction.
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:34 PM   #15
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You could try the Dixie bar off the point of Ft morgan. Right outside the channel/right outside the pass on the east side. Always able to catch a bull or 10 there. When I say always I mean 75% of the time. Can keep one in AL. fun to catch, aint worth the trouble of cleaning to eat though IMO
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:15 PM   #16
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OK...I've burned enough gas looking for those stupid schools of big reds that I read about that I could've driven to Cuba and back.

I'm not asking for anybody's "hotspots" or anything (it's not that kind of fishery anyway) just some general information. If I wanted to look for those big schools off the beach (or up in the bay or whatever) what are the variables I should be looking at?

Is it Tide? Wind? Time of day? Water temp? Water depth? Just give up and take up tennis?

About all I know to do is cruise the beach and look for birds diving. I'm seeing there's more to it than that. Any info that would help me be more efficient would be much appreciated.

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Frustrated in Fairhope.
FlyFisher, for finding the big reds some days can be difficult, but this time of year it's usually pretty good. But we've had some bad weather for the past 2 - 3 weeks, and with winds 15 - 20 it makes it hard to find them on top. If you do go out when it's a little windy try using some stretch 25 Manns lures in solid colors like pink and orange.
Also, look for birds diving on bait pods. When trolling don't troll through the school with the boat, just make the lures go through the school; this takes a little practice but if done right, you'll hook up. If it's calm out and the birds are diving, get only within casting distance and toss out a 1.5 - 2 oz buck tail jig. I like to add a soft plastic like a laser tail or a curly grub on the buck tail; this helps get more bites. When it's calm out you'll usually see the fish on top. Just make sure not to run up on the school of fish too fast. I've seen many boaters run up into the school and wonder where they went. Just motor up slow as close as you can to get a good cast and you should hook a few.
Last thing, I use 30 lb braid for my main line and 24 -30" of 40 - 50 lb mono leader.
Good luck to you. I hope this helps.
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:26 PM   #17
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Are they changing the size limits too?
FSU Alex, from what I've heard the size limits are the same..
18 - 27" with a pinched tail.

I personally wish they would have kept it to one and made the size limits somewhere around 22" -30" something like that. JMO

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Cover lots of water. A typical trip for me consists of a long drive (with several stops in between) from my house near Garcon all the way to the pass or around to the ICW. It's 11 miles from Garcon to the Pass and/or around to the beach bridge. Year long I will see reds on top I would say 30% of the time somewhere along the way... this time of year it's more like 50%. If you do the same route a lot you'll narrow down their locations where they regularly feed on top to a handful of areas... but I've seen them show up where you'd least expect too.
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:12 PM   #19
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FlyFisher, for finding the big reds some days can be difficult, but this time of year it's usually pretty good. But we've had some bad weather for the past 2 - 3 weeks, and with winds 15 - 20 it makes it hard to find them on top. If you do go out when it's a little windy try using some stretch 25 Manns lures in solid colors like pink and orange.
Also, look for birds diving on bait pods. When trolling don't troll through the school with the boat, just make the lures go through the school; this takes a little practice but if done right, you'll hook up. If it's calm out and the birds are diving, get only within casting distance and toss out a 1.5 - 2 oz buck tail jig. I like to add a soft plastic like a laser tail or a curly grub on the buck tail; this helps get more bites. When it's calm out you'll usually see the fish on top. Just make sure not to run up on the school of fish too fast. I've seen many boaters run up into the school and wonder where they went. Just motor up slow as close as you can to get a good cast and you should hook a few.
Last thing, I use 30 lb braid for my main line and 24 -30" of 40 - 50 lb mono leader.
Good luck to you. I hope this helps.
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Thanks Captain. It sounds like I just need to keep going. That's good information and I appreciate it.

Thx.
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Cover as much water as possible and like everyone else said look for birds diving. Dont motor striaght into the schools stay on the outside, even though you can see the fish on top of the water there are some underneath on the outside of the school. Just keep up with the schools but try not bust them up or they will all go underwater and you will have to ride to relocate them again. I'm in Orange Beach so we are fishing the same water, it took me a little while to learn to catch them too. I use a 8" white curly tail grub with 1 3/8 ounce white jig head. You can get them at Mo Fishin Bait & Tackle at Zekes. Hope this helps.
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