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Old 05-13-2009, 02:39 PM   #21
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I think I have figured it out but will not know until I get off work. Can I just say...:banghead:doh:banghead:doh:banghead:doh:bang head:doh

Never thought to unscrew simply try to unscrew the pump! I didnt take the hose off I was just looking for screws that were holding it in place. There were no screws. I dint think to go ahead & take off the hose that goes to the well and try to unscrew it from the port.

Like I said before, it is a small pump (500 Gallons). I found a West Marine and took a close look @ theother pumps.This is a "through hull" pump. which has 2 intakes, one forintake hose & one for screwing into the port that has been drilled through the hull. They come with a plug to plug whichever intake is not being used. I thought @ first that somehow the actual pump was lets say bonded to the hull. Thats the only thing that I couldfigure that was actually holding the pump in place. It simply screws!

And my actual hole is on the bottom on the boat, it is actually bored through right below the outboard.

I will see if I can get it off, test it see if there are any clogs between the pump and the well and either fix or replace.
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:50 PM   #22
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[quote]submariner (5/13/2009)This installation sounds the same as the installation I had on another boat. The pump noramlly has a pickup tube coming out the bottom.It is connected to the pick up point on the stern.

fishing wiring is not hard. easiest is if the old wiring is not tied down , just tie a string to it when you pull it out. Probably is tied down and you need to fish the wire using a snake...make sure itis dead first. Seriously, flexible wire use by electricians to "snake " wire through enclosed spaces.

That's funny!:clap

The boat is a 2003. Yes, the wiring is all tied down and very difficult to get to. There is already a "Snake" run with a piece of nylon that I can run new wiring with. But again, my personal financial situation is extreamley bleak right now and there is extra cost with the new connection terminals and the actual wire. Although minimal I know, it's just every dime counts @ this moment.

The first 4 years the boat was in a saltwater enviroment (Tampa) and now being in fresh water shouldnt be a rough on it. The wires show some wear and some of that ever present green corrosion, so I want to try to cut some off and get a better piece to connect to.
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Old 05-14-2009, 07:11 AM   #23
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All these words of speculation. :banghead



A few pixs would have saved a LOT of typing and cleared things up quick.



I never saw where you have said the pump exits the boat. Thru the bottom of the boat? Thru the transom?



With little info it's a guessing game. With good pix's it clears things up fast.
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:28 AM   #24
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Well it does not unscrew. I am back to my original thought that this thing is sealed to the hole in the transom. I have included the pics. Those 2 screws you see on the pump have been taken off and I still cannot remove the pump.









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Old 05-14-2009, 07:25 PM   #25
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pictures worth a thousand words. Did you try back flushing yet. I would try a back flush and then a forward flush. If the pump internals are broke, you still should be able to send water by hose pressure through the pump from both direction. Disconnect the discharge hose.

If backflush and forward flush don't work, time to take the pump out. Based on your picture, you will have to replace the through hull connection. Recommend you do it different then the current installation. If you go to the bass pro web site, I think the have a basic diagram of a system If not, ask I I will send something.
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Old 05-14-2009, 07:56 PM   #26
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submariner (5/14/2009)pictures worth a thousand words. Did you try back flushing yet. I would try a back flush and then a forward flush. If the pump internals are broke, you still should be able to send water by hose pressure through the pump from both direction. Disconnect the discharge hose.

If backflush and forward flush don't work, time to take the pump out. Based on your picture, you will have to replace the through hull connection. Recommend you do it different then the current installation. If you go to the bass pro web site, I think the have a basic diagram of a system If not, ask I I will send something.
Where on the Bass Pro site could I find it if its there? Do you think I could still use the same hole? If so, Is it just using any kind of simple silicone to seal the hole? Again, I am lost and have never seen anything like this. I just cant see spending 100.00 to replace a 40.00 part.

Thanks for your help and advise. :bowdown
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Old 05-15-2009, 09:04 AM   #27
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When I try to unscrew the pump, I can see the actual intake tube on the outside of the transom turning as well. But it will not come out. This is why at first I made the comment about cutting out the silicone in order to remove the unit.
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Old 05-15-2009, 06:03 PM   #28
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OK...

Here is my suggestion, take it for what it is worth. Only do this if the flushing thing does not work.

I can see in your picture that there are 3-4 screws that hold the motor of the pump to the base of the pump. I would take those out and pry the motor off the base. That should expose the impeller and the pump mechanism.

I would then buy the EXACT same motor, do the same to it, and screw the new motor assembly onto the old base. That is, if there are not integral parts broke on that base.

This way, you might get around all that silicone without having to redo everything. I would definitely take apart the pump like I suggested before I got a new one, just in case you mess up the base in prying it off or if it is already broken some way.

Just my .02 redneck cents. I always try the cheap way first.
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Old 05-15-2009, 09:10 PM   #29
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previous suggestion is good. if that does not work the basic flow is a through connection with an extrnal strainer. the through connection hooks up the pump suction with a short piece of hose, The pumps is stablized on an expoxy block to the hull or short screws to the hull/ the discharge is simply a hose. The through connection is sealed with silicone. I looked at bass pro and the diagram has been deleted otherwise I have included it. You should be able to work the old connection and the pump by wiggling it. Good luck Ed
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