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Old 06-04-2012, 04:44 PM   #11
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Honest, no BS question: would you lie in court and/or do you think it's right to do so? Bond revocation happens all the time in cases like this.

I actually think that it is a good thing that the courts are trying Zimmerman because he killed another person. Put the facts out there and have a trial. Guilty or innocent, it needs to be looked into.
I would absolutley NOT lie in Court and I don't beleive that it would be considered a lie if I said I was broke if I had no access to any money. I'm not saying thats the case because none of us know that yet.

I agree he should just as about anyone be tried in court after causing the death of another. I do not think he should be in jail for maybe 2 years waiting on a probable aquital. Would you at least want to be with your family waiting trial if you thought you were in the right? ( Which I'm sure he does) The bond system is there for a reason, and Zimmerman has obeyed every order the courts have given him , why deny him bail? Not to mention if you look at the Prosicuter asking the judge to deny bail he says Zimmermans wife was the one who lied.
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Turtle, you are correct amount of bond has nothing to do with the ability to pay or defendants wealth, few factors are involved , defendants Criminal record, seriousness of crime, defendants family ties and employment. As far as conversation between him and wife has zero to do with case, I think the judge is trying to showcase it a little bit. I have not heard court transcripts about the money but if he lied to judge. Hey everyone must remember this guy is innocent until proven guilty in court of law and his attorney is very sharpe but he will be judged like everyone else but it will be a tough conviction. I feel they charged him incorrectly but we shall see. Prosecutor has a lot to prove with not much evidence. we shall see?
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I would absolutley NOT lie in Court and I don't beleive that it would be considered a lie if I said I was broke if I had no access to any money. I'm not saying thats the case because none of us know that yet.

I agree he should just as about anyone be tried in court after causing the death of another. I do not think he should be in jail for maybe 2 years waiting on a probable aquital. Would you at least want to be with your family waiting trial if you thought you were in the right? ( Which I'm sure he does) The bond system is there for a reason, and Zimmerman has obeyed every order the courts have given him , why deny him bail? Not to mention if you look at the Prosicuter asking the judge to deny bail he says Zimmermans wife was the one who lied.
Well, it seems as though the judge who is trying the case feels like he was lied to and has some proof that Zimmerman and his wife lied. How dumb does one have to be to talk about that stuff on a jailhouse phone which is being monitored? That's all that is really important to a judge.

As far as the bail/bond thing goes, Zimmerman is very lucky. Innocent or guilty, the guy is being put on trial for a very serious offense and needs to give up the Mickey Mouse bullshit and tell his attorney to do the same. I still cannot believe that people sent him money, credit card info, etc.

I don't really care about the outcome, but I welcome the judicial scrutiny in any case that involves the death of another person.



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Horn, It was actually setup on paypal which you do not have to give credit card number to, I seems you have already made the decision that he is guilty, If there was that much evidence there would be no bond. The judge is pushing his weight around a little. Im sure Zimmer will be out in a couple days and we will all fiqure out that the PD department screwed it up (Remember OJ) and prosecutor will have a hard time to convince a jury If the guy was attacked he will be ok if not he will have to pay for his actions. I still believe our court system works its just some of the detectives that work these cases. The stand your ground law is a tough one especially when you only have one guys side. Im going to sit back and let a jury handle this one . I still say they charged him wrong for a conviction.
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the man that wote the law said it didnt apply in this instance as he followed him, i know better than to do that, i just watch out window, if he had followed me it could have been much worst, as i carry also.he wanted to be a policeman, couldnt make the grade, thought he was something he wasnt.hes just a screw up
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Maybe I dont know enough about this case but was Zimmerman on a Neiborhood watch organization when this happened or was he just driving down the road. I thought I understood he was like patrolling for neighborhood watch where they had a recent rash of burgleries lately, maybe he was trying to play cop, I carry also and am like sea skiff I avoid anything that could be confrontational, but if I was patrolling for a watch group I would have a different approach to the situation.
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Goldigger, I actually don't care about Zimmerman. He can dig his own grave and fall in it or pay an attorney with his own money like the other 500 people who shot and killed (he doesn't dispute this) somebody on that same day in the USA.

The thing that can't really be disputed is that he is freeloading off of his notoriety and offended a judge so much that his bond/bail was revoked. As far as Paypal goes, I'm sure that people were dumb enough to send him their credit card numbers, checks, etc.

Martin was an angel or a thug (the latter is a thinly-veiled euphemism). Zimmerman is the savior and champion of a citizen's right to bear arms and defend himself or a guy who tracked down an unarmed teenager and shot him at point blank range. It's a Rorschach test that I won't take.

What really amuses me is the reaction and the fact that people gave him their own money. Makes for a fun and civil debate.



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Horn 45 days after the fact you have everyone from Mr Jackson to Obama wanting to hang the guy. Im sure that he was seeing the circus going on and felt it was neccessary to get a good attorney that he did not have the money for so here we are. I do care about the guy as I do all people of all different races. You carry so you get in the situation he says he was in, nothing you can do but use deadly force and you wake up 30 days later and Jackson is on tV wanting your A?? what would your reaction be. I got to get a great attorney this is getting out of hand. He has not been to court yet so he is innocent now if guilty so be it. People giving him money,, great thing about USA you can do what the hell you want to with it. This guy has 30 percent of the USA against him. I dont blame him one bit just a little different opinion than you. We shall see
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Horn 45 days after the fact you have everyone from Mr Jackson to Obama wanting to hang the guy. Im sure that he was seeing the circus going on and felt it was neccessary to get a good attorney that he did not have the money for so here we are. I do care about the guy as I do all people of all different races. You carry so you get in the situation he says he was in, nothing you can do but use deadly force and you wake up 30 days later and Jackson is on tV wanting your A?? what would your reaction be. I got to get a great attorney this is getting out of hand. He has not been to court yet so he is innocent now if guilty so be it. People giving him money,, great thing about USA you can do what the hell you want to with it. This guy has 30 percent of the USA against him. I dont blame him one bit just a little different opinion than you. We shall see
Hey man, no worries. I'm sure Zimmerman would do things differently in hindsight because his life has basically been ruined by the people for and against him. He will never be able to escape the shadow of this odd media circus. I say let a judge and jury scrutinize everything and see what they decide.

Problem for him is that the media do not care. They just want to make money off of stories like this. The press has already moved on, but Zimmerman is still living a nightmare.



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