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Old 05-11-2011, 07:51 PM   #51
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I'm retired, and I believe BP should send me some money too. Here's why:

1. The oil spill slowed the fishing in our area.
2. I was unable to catch as many large snapper as the year before.
3. My friends weren't as impressed with my fishing ablility as before.
4. Now they don't fish with me as often.
5. Now I don't have as many fishing friends to help defray the cost of a very expensive habit. (fishing)
6. I'm not bringing home as many fish now because I can't afford to fish as much.
7. The wife is after me now for not providing for the family.
8. I"m having to buy steaks and seafood.
9. See, it's all BP's fault.

Some of the claims I've heard make about as much sense as this yarn.

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BIG +1!!! I've heard even better ones and the people really think they deserve something.
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:53 PM   #52
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One factor of criminal negligence is intent but intent to cause harm is not the only factor. Another factor and the one in this case is not intent to harm but intent to ignore risk or to ignore warnings of risk...
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To constitute a crime, there must be an actus reus (Latin for "guilty act") accompanied by the mens rea (see concurrence). Negligence shows the least level of culpability, intention being the most serious and recklessness of intermediate seriousness, overlapping with gross negligence. The distinction between recklessness and criminal negligence lies in the presence or absence of foresight as to the prohibited consequences. Recklessness is usually described as a 'malfeasance' where the defendant knowingly exposes another to the risk of injury. The fault lies in being willing to run the risk. But criminal negligence is a 'misfeasance or 'nonfeasance' (see omission), where the fault lies in the failure to foresee and so allow otherwise avoidable dangers to manifest. In some cases this failure can rise to the level of willful blindness where the individual intentionally avoids adverting to the reality of a situation.
With this part making me feel this was criminal negligence...
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But criminal negligence is a 'misfeasance or 'nonfeasance' (see omission), where the fault lies in the failure to foresee and so allow otherwise avoidable dangers to manifest.
If I tell you that your vehicle is unsafe without all 24 lugnuts on your 4 6 lug wheels and you choose to undertake EXTREME driving practices (Deepwater Drilling is extreme oil exploration) with less than 1/3rd of them for a total of 6 used on all 4 wheels and you cause a fatality crash and this includes destruction of wetlands from the petroleum products leaked after the crash, you can expect to be in criminal court for your actions... There is no difference in this case.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:20 PM   #53
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Boy ???? VERY mature snapper.
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Boy ???? VERY mature snapper.
Okay, I will do the +1...
even when I come across as crass or heartless, I never intend to hurt folks feelings. I do passionately express my feelings and opine as such but never feel "low roading" helps my cause.

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Old 05-11-2011, 09:10 PM   #55
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And I will say the same Hog, a difference of oppinion is what makes the world go round, who is to say mine is right, or yours ????? Bottom line is I saw this news story on the tattoo parlor, I felt strongly about it, so I posted, doesn't mean I have the monopoly on right and wrong.
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And I will say the same Hog, a difference of oppinion is what makes the world go round, who is to say mine is right, or yours ????? Bottom line is I saw this news story on the tattoo parlor, I felt strongly about it, so I posted, doesn't mean I have the monopoly on right and wrong.
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CCC, And if it turns out I am proven wrong on any of this I will graciously apologize and offer myself up for due lumps...

I ain't hatin' on you or anyone else. Many folks do not realize the "trickle down" effects of a localized economy... And those that do may not realize just how many folks and sorts of enterprise will be harmed...

As for my adamant feelings on BP and this whole FIASCO... I really didn't realize how responsible a company could actually be. It is the "gcapt." forum above and the chatter there that lead me to develop such a strong opinion.
With my feelings on responsibility, warning labels removing responsibility from the end user and DARWINIAN GENE POOL CLEANSING preventing the stupider and weaker from breeding... it was only natural for me to come to my harsh conclusions...

Don't ask me how I really feel about BP, the handling of the spill and information by our goobermint nor the moratorium... I assure you, I have been utterly polite compared to what my feelings say I should type...
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Holding hands and singing coom by ya..........
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CCC, Hogdogs, and AAR , LAY IT DOWN FELLAS. You all have valid points, just agree to disagree. Yall come on a trip with me and I PROMISE you will be the best of friends at the end of the day. This was somewhat entertaing though.
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Capt. Ed, Can we consider this as an invite for a "pro bono"/free/gratis/complimentary/no charge pow-wow overnight WAY OFFSHORE all expenses paid trip... Or is it just one of them ALL DAY offshore trips?
This makes you one of the most generous people I know of and THEE MOST GENEROUS charter skipper I ever met... And for this offer, I THANK YOU!!! My schedule is very flexible and any day/s is/are wide open to take you up on this most generous offer. The other 2 guys need to give you a date available and I will be there.... ready to shake hands and apologize hug sing kumbaya or whatever...
Thanks again for this great offer... I will do everything I can to promote your operation as soon as my feet hit the dock upon return!

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