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Old 07-17-2008, 10:22 AM   #1
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Default Some facts about Social Security

<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Be sure and show it to your kids They need a little history lesson on what's what<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d">And it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat of Republican<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">.<SPAN class=ececapple-converted-space><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Facts are facts!!!<o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">
<U>Our Social Security</U>

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
Security (FICA) Program. Hepromised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be
completely voluntary.

2.) That the participants would only have to pay
1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
incomes into the Program,

3.) That the money the participants elected to put
into the Program would be deductible from
their income for tax purposes each year,

4.) That the money the participants put into the
Independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the
General Operating Fund, and therefore, would
only be used to fund the Social Security
<SPAN style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">Retirement Program, and no other<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: navy">
government program, and,

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees
would never be taxed as income.
<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">now receiving a Social Security check every month --
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">the money we paid to the federal government to 'put
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">away', you may be interested in the following:
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<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Q: Which political party took Social Security from the
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Independent 'Trust Fund' and put it in to the
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">General Fund so that Congress could spend it?

<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratically-
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">controlled House and Senate.
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<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Q: Which political party eliminated the income tax
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A: The Democratic Party.
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<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Q: Which political party started taxing Social
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Security annuities?

<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A: The Democratic Party, with<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Al Gore<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">casting the
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Senate, while he was Vice President of the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">U.S.</st1lace></st1:country-region>
<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
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<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Q: Which political party decided to start giving
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">annuity payments to immigrants?

<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">AND MY FAVORITE:

<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A: That's right!
<o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Jimmy Carter<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">and the Democratic Party.<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
they began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them
even though they never paid a dime into it!
<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
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<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Then, afterviolating the original contract (FICA),
<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: #cf30a8; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">
<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="COLOR: navy">the<SPAN class=ececapple-converted-space><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Democrats turn around and tell you that the<SPAN style="COLOR: #cf30a8; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<SPAN style="COLOR: navy">Republicans want to take your Social Security away!<SPAN style="COLOR: #cf30a8; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: #cf30a8; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">
<SPAN style="COLOR: navy">And the worst part about it is, uninformed citizens believe it!
<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: navy"><o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT<o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #1f497d">FOR ONLY SERVING ONE TERM!!!<o></o>
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:46 AM   #2
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wanabe fishing (7/17/2008)<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Be sure and show it to your kids They need a little history lesson on what's what<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d">And it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat of Republican<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">.<SPAN class=ececapple-converted-space><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Facts are facts!!!<o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
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<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Q: Which political party started taxing Social
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Jimmy Carter<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">and the Democratic Party.<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
they began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them
even though they never paid a dime into it!
<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
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<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT<o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #1f497d">FOR ONLY SERVING ONE TERM!!!<o></o>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center>Not true...they receive SSI which is Supplemental Security Income...there is a difference, between SSA and SSI....it still sucks they can get it.



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And the Republicans who controlled Congress for 6 straight years with Bush as president didn't fix any of it....what's your point again?
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/sschanges.asp



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WW2 (7/17/2008)And the Republicans who controlled Congress for 6 straight years with Bush as president didn't fix any of it....what's your point again?


exactly, both side are equally corrupt and unfit for service of our country



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wanabe fishing (7/17/2008)<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: navy"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT<o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #1f497d">FOR ONLY SERVING ONE TERM!!!<o></o>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=center><P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=left>thats not true<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=left><P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" align=left>
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When someone says the "facts are the facts", it is time to check the facts. That was a good read you provided, Tuna Man and an interesting point made on fixing previous legislation, WW2.
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