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Old 09-27-2010, 12:01 PM   #11
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A water snake doesn't have the color band through the eye.



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Old 09-27-2010, 12:55 PM   #12
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Based on the band at the eye I'd say cotton mouth. I'v seen a bunch of them this year.
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Old 09-27-2010, 01:11 PM   #13
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http://www.wildlifenorthamerica.com/...tiventris.html

http://www.texassnakes.net/BroadBanded.htm

Actually there are a few different specie of banded water snakes and color variants of each. The stripe behind the eye occurs often. My son, Junior spent several years under the wing of a well educated herpetologist and he showed me how often and easy it is for the banded water snakes to nearly exactly replicate the mocs.
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Old 09-27-2010, 01:27 PM   #14
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Yea, I would say a Water Snake, bands just don't look right for a Mosikan..

Don't know if I would have killed it but can't blame you for not taking the chance. If I had kids though YES, I wouldn't have taken the chance of checking him out before putting the hoe to his arse.
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Old 09-27-2010, 02:11 PM   #15
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Snakes in the yard, Kill em. The only thing that runs free around my house is oak, corn, and black snakes. Those I can look at from a distance and know what they are without question. Anything else gets lead thrown at them at high velocities. When you have kids around you cant afford to take chances. Look at whats going on here on this page. You got half the people saying venomous, the other half saying non-venomous. Do you want to take the chance of one of your kids misidentifying it and getting bitten.
Personally it looks like a moccasin to me, though it doesnt seem quite dark enough. Most of the moccasins near my house are so dark you can hardly see the stripes. But its usually a dead give-away when the little feller strikes out chasing you. Moccasins are very territorial and WILL chase you if you get close.
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Old 09-27-2010, 02:18 PM   #16
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Cotton Mouth if the pupiles in the eye's are cat like and not round !!!! You will have more around . They give live birth unlike non- posinious snakes
BTW, garter snakes give live birth also .

and coral snakes lay eggs .

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Old 09-27-2010, 02:29 PM   #17
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Definitely a banded watersnake, Nerodia fasciata, the snake most often mistaken for a cottonmouth. The head shape is too narrow for a pit viper, which includes cotton mouths, rattlesnakes, and copperheads. All pit vipers look like they have big cheeks because that's where the venom sacks are located, giving them the characteristic spear-shaped head.
http://www.uga.edu/srelherp/snakes/nerfas.htm

As a few others have said, juvi cottonmouths ALWAYS have a yellow/green tip to the tail they use as a lure. The snake pictured has the brown/tan banding pattern all the way back, no lure. Also cottonmouths have a dark wide horizontal band covering their eye all the way from neck to nose. The pictured snake has a very thing diagonal line going partway up the head but not nearly as large.

I can definitely understand being safe than sorry. Good luck keeping out the real thing,
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Old 09-27-2010, 02:30 PM   #18
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actually the FLORIDA Banded Water Snake does have a band that extends to and sometimes through the eye.. like i said before, the stripes on the lips are a dead giveaway of a FL banded water snake.

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Old 09-28-2010, 12:44 PM   #19
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i think its cute lol
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Old 09-28-2010, 02:06 PM   #20
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I don't know but I have a question... take for example a Dalmation dog. The breed has spots but the amount of spots and location of the spot varies from dog to dog. Is it the same way with snakes? I guess what I'm saying the markings is a clue but the real sign is shape of the head and pupils???? Personally I'm not getting close enough to stare into it's eyes.
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