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Old 05-05-2011, 11:40 AM   #1
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Obama floats plan to tax cars by the mile


By Pete Kasperowicz - 05/05/11 07:45 AM ET

The Obama administration has floated a transportation authorization bill that would require the study and implementation of a plan to tax automobile drivers based on how many miles they drive.
The plan is a part of the administration's "Transportation Opportunities Act," an undated draft of which was obtained this week by Transportation Weekly.

The White House, however, said the bill is only an early draft that was not formally circulated within the administration.
“This is not an Administration proposal," White House spokeswoman Jennifer Psaki said. "This is not a bill supported by the Administration. This was an early working draft proposal that was never formally circulated within the Administration, does not taken into account the advice of the President’s senior advisors, economic team or Cabinet officials, and does not represent the views of the President.”






News of the draft follows a March Congressional Budget Office report that supported the idea of taxing drivers based on miles driven.
Among other things, CBO suggested that a vehicle miles traveled (VMT) tax could be tracked by installing electronic equipment on each car to determine how many miles were driven; payment could take place electronically at filling stations.

The CBO report was requested by Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad (D-ND), who has proposed taxing cars by the mile as a way to increase federal highway revenues.
Obama's proposal seems to follow up on that idea in section 2218 of the draft bill. That section would create, within the Federal Highway Administration, a Surface Transportation Revenue Alternatives Office. It would be tasked with creating a "study framework that defines the functionality of a mileage-based user fee system and other systems."
The administration seems to be aware of the need to prepare the public for what would likely be a controversial change to the way highway funds are collected. For example, the office is called on to serve a public relations function, as the draft says it should "increase public awareness regarding the need for an alternative funding source for surface transportation programs and provide information on possible approaches."
The draft bill says the "study framework" for the project and a public awareness communications plan should be established within two years of creating the office, and that field tests should begin within four years.
The office would be required to consider four factors in field trials: the capability of states to enforce payment, the reliability of technology, administrative costs, and "user acceptance." The draft does not specify where field trials should begin.
The new office would be funded a total of $200 million through FY 2017 for the project.
This story was updated at 10:17 a.m.
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Old 05-05-2011, 11:47 AM   #2
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Sounds like the New Zealand thing I posted about a few weeks back.

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They have been trying to find a way to do this for a while now. Ever since the Gore video came out and this "Go Green", "Global Warming" BS kicked off. Its funny how when you mention these kinds of things years ago and people say your crazy, or "that will never happen". When will people realize that for the government no idea is off the table. Especially when it involves someone making a large sum of money.
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Now just remember, he will not raise taxes on anyone making less than
$ 200,000 dollars a year. Welcome to the Obamanation.
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It is also another way to control the American population. I.e high gas prices and a mile tax. Think anyone will want to go anywhere? Nope. Hell, after that, go ahead and roll in that carbon tax! Be careful how much you breathe!
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Thats ridiculous! How would they figure out how many miles you drive. If this is the case they might as well add the mileage tax to your plane ticket and bus ticket too. While your at it how about you F%$%ers tax us on breathing!

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Isn't this what they're doing now with taxing gas!? The more miles you drive, the more gas you buy, the more taxes you pay...

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Acousti..., In New Zealand, You buy a window sticker. They are available in KM increments. When your km's are about to be used up, you go to a place with the vehicle and an "official" confirms the odometer reading. Then you BUY another 5,000 km's (or whatever) worth of road use tax.

If you try to defraud them by disconnecting the odometer and are caught, the fees, fines and penalties will far exceed the tax you evaded.

Sort of like getting caught with red diesel in a pickup... If they choose to throw the book at you fully, they charge you the per gallon tax based on the total miles on the odometer like you had run red diesel from day one new truck.

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Jimmy, The way it is in NZ, you pay tax to buy the gas and then they claim the sticker collects money for road maint. BULL SHIT IT IS BUT THE POPULATION BUYS THE BULLSHIT RATHER THAN WALK...

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I think I would disconnect my speedometer
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