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Old 10-04-2007, 12:17 AM   #11
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Sorry this happened to her. Like the others said, if you report it to the pnj I'm sure there would be a story, likely just moving the crack house tho.



On a side note, if she was in hysterics after she just ran away, and didnt drive herself to the pd, I dont think a gun will do any good. Especially in that situation, she wouldnt have had time to get it out, if she was trying to get it out, very well could have taken a bullet. She did the absolute best thing she could have done, second to not stopping.



For the average person, probably myself included, a gun wont help on surprise attacks, only when your ready....
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:07 AM   #12
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I fully plan to make this public knowledge no matter what the outcome is. That will be my goal no matter what. No one should have to go through this, or have one of their family members go through this.
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:05 AM   #13
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Spearfisher, I'm glad your sister is ok and hope they can identify and prosecute those involved. She did the right thing and I agree a gun would not have mattered in this case unless it went really bad really quick then it might have helped, but not likely.I feel a little insight from the policepoint of view might enlighten you and those not involved in investigations.I wasn't there and don't know the investigator,his demeanor,the tone usedor the nature of the questions but I've been in the investigators shoes numerous times.

NO INFERENCE INTENDED TOWARD YOUR SISTER.

Often people find themselves in places doing the wrong thing and end up victims of crime while engaged in criminal activity themselves.More often in these circumstances they are using the police as an alibi to either justify money they spent,something they sold or stole from another by reporting a theft or robbery. It might be a "race" to the police station where the first one to report becomes the victim.Even some getting caught in affairs or going on a 2 or three day crack benge will report all kinds of ridiculous stories to the police so they will have an "official" police report that accounts for their whereabouts or currrent self imposed plight.

IN NO WAY AM I INFERRING THESE WERE THE CIRCUMSTANCES WITH YOUR SISTER'S SITUATION.

The police have to determine what happened and that requires extensive questioning for two reasons. First they need to get as much detail as they can since they weren't there to recreate EXACTLY as possible the chain of events leading up to, during and after the crime.Second, they are in the business of criminal prosecution.Thisrequires themto ask uncomfortable questions because they don't want to look like bafoons in court when all the defendants say " She rolled up and wanted some rocks." Junebug went to the stash came back and bitch pulled a gun and tried to rob us.They have to investigate crimes regardless of the victim or the circumstances.However due to manpower shortages cases and solvability factors have to be prioritised.From your point of view which case would you want them to focus their time on, the crackhead that was a victim of an attempted carjacking the day before or your sister's?

Trust me they don't want a crackhouse down the street anymore than you or any other citizen does.Most of the crime in your community revolves around illegal drug trade and usage, from petty theft,shoplifting,burglaries to armed robberies and homicides.I hope this gives a different perspective and understanding of why they do the things they do.
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:14 AM   #14
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inform the news journal and the independent news,always remember to not stop when someone yells at you to stop unless they are a uniformed officer,find the closest well lit place and call the police immediately.
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:38 AM   #15
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THe PD knows about that crack house and has for awhile. THat area is designated as a revitilization area and several people have built new construction houses that are eligible for grants from the city. But a big problem has been the area and its inhabitants, people still see tha crack houses and the otherwise still rough neighborhood making it hard to sell the properties.The PD has gotten complaints and nothing has been done about that particular house. It is very obvious which house it is, thereare usually severalyounger guys sitting on the porch in the middle of the day most all the time one would think these would be crack dealers. It seems that some Law enforcement would go and bust the sh*t out of that place and that would help tremendously, just shut them down. This is an embarassment to the PD having that exist blocks from their office.
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:28 AM   #16
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I'm glad to hear your sister's ok.

I am a gun owner, and I think every law-abiding citizen should have one (or twelve).

But, in that situation, the best thing to do is exactly what your sister did... get the hell out of there. It's just too bad a couple of those pieces of garbage weren't in front of the truck when she hit the gas. Perpetrators of violent crime have no purpose in this world.
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:45 AM   #17
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surfstryker (10/3/2007)I hope they find the dirtbags. Glad to hear your sis is OK. I have a known crack house nextdoor to me, the cops have raided it twice in the last week. I am putting a big fence up to stop the dirtbags from running through my backyard to get away. A sign of the times I guess.
If these slime bags are running thru your yard, that would be trespassing and you have the right protect with deadly force.:blownaway
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That sucks about your sister glad everything turned out ok. Like everyone said her having a gun in this situation probably would not have made any difference by the time she pulled it out they would have been all over her and things could have turned out a lot worse. As far as this crack house I am sure that this will be taken care of maybe there are feds or dea agents watching to build a trafficking case depending on how much weight these dealers are moving who knows like I said glad she is ok.
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David Ridenour (10/4/2007)Spearfisher, I'm glad your sister is ok and hope they can identify and prosecute those involved. She did the right thing and I agree a gun would not have mattered in this case unless it went really bad really quick then it might have helped, but not likely.I feel a little insight from the policepoint of view might enlighten you and those not involved in investigations.I wasn't there and don't know the investigator,his demeanor,the tone usedor the nature of the questions but I've been in the investigators shoes numerous times.



NO INFERENCE INTENDED TOWARD YOUR SISTER.



Often people find themselves in places doing the wrong thing and end up victims of crime while engaged in criminal activity themselves.More often in these circumstances they are using the police as an alibi to either justify money they spent,something they sold or stole from another by reporting a theft or robbery. It might be a "race" to the police station where the first one to report becomes the victim.Even some getting caught in affairs or going on a 2 or three day crack benge will report all kinds of ridiculous stories to the police so they will have an "official" police report that accounts for their whereabouts or currrent self imposed plight.



IN NO WAY AM I INFERRING THESE WERE THE CIRCUMSTANCES WITH YOUR SISTER'S SITUATION.



The police have to determine what happened and that requires extensive questioning for two reasons. First they need to get as much detail as they can since they weren't there to recreate EXACTLY as possible the chain of events leading up to, during and after the crime.Second, they are in the business of criminal prosecution.Thisrequires themto ask uncomfortable questions because they don't want to look like bafoons in court when all the defendants say " She rolled up and wanted some rocks." Junebug went to the stash came back and bitch pulled a gun and tried to rob us.They have to investigate crimes regardless of the victim or the circumstances.However due to manpower shortages cases and solvability factors have to be prioritised.From your point of view which case would you want them to focus their time on, the crackhead that was a victim of an attempted carjacking the day before or your sister's?



Trust me they don't want a crackhouse down the street anymore than you or any other citizen does.Most of the crime in your community revolves around illegal drug trade and usage, from petty theft,shoplifting,burglaries to armed robberies and homicides.I hope this gives a different perspective and understanding of why they do the things they do.




Thanks David, that is an interesting slant, never would of thought of that. Then again, most of us on this forum have no need to think like a criminal, I would hope. Regardless of the circumstances though, I agree with the others that this "known" crack house needs to be dealt with and with a quickness.
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