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Old 12-11-2010, 01:06 AM   #11
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Having it under the removable cup holder in a Chevy is a mistake without the CC permit. I'm sure the trooper took it as he was trying to hide it. Having it in a holster may have been enough to save him though. Black Talons are still made today and are sold as Winchester Rangers, they are no longer black and can only be purchased by an LEO. I'm not sure but don't think it is against the law for a non-LEO to have them, you just can't buy them. Years ago a non-LEO could purchase them from some retailers without being a LEO. I have a couple hundred rounds in .40 cal and keep all my mags loaded with them and have never had any issuses.
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Old 12-11-2010, 01:10 AM   #12
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Cops are like Judges , they get away with being activist and changing the laws or stepping on Laws as they see fit.
I do not see where any Law was broken and It was wrong for the cop to " steal " your ammo. - at that point he took away his right to self defence and left him defenceless in a world where thugs travel in packs
hollow points do not defeat vest as well as ball , the cop was wrong. I would be tempted to lodge a written complaint over unauthorized seizure of private property , or you may just let it ride since he didn't steal your gun.
It is my understanding that if two steps are required to access your gun then no License is required. / two step rule

in holster and in glove compartment or hide hole should be good enough.
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BTW My CZ52 with ball ammo is more of a threat
Even though it was in a holster (1 Step) in a secreative compartment will not count as a second step.
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Old 12-11-2010, 01:31 AM   #13
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Two things: one there is no "two step" law in FL, and two it is not against the law for non leo to buy Ranger ammunition. It is however against Winchesters policy and the dealer selling them to non leo can have their dealership status with Winchester revoked.
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Old 12-11-2010, 01:32 AM   #14
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thanks for the info. I knew he was going to get a ticket in his new truck told him today to watch it, old man was right again. I got the gun for him when he was 18 he knows how and when to use it. it just makes me mad as hell when leos try to bull shit the younger kids or just dont know the law ,you think they would make them take a class and teach them the law. there just a diffrent breed now i think .i agree his name those were better days
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Old 12-11-2010, 01:33 AM   #15
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There is no "STEPS" in fLORIDA LAW... it has to be "encased". It can simply be dropped in the console fully loaded and ready to fire without a holster. It can be in the glove box without a holster. It can be under the seat IN a hoster... It can be in a HIDEY HOLE in a holster anywhere else in the vehicle...

IT CANNOT BE ON HIS PERSON WITHOUT A PERMIT.

IT CANNOT BE IN FULL VIEW EITHER!!!

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Old 12-11-2010, 01:35 AM   #16
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Thanks for letting know i was right in what i was thinking,and letting me vent ,as always it was a nice to hear from like mined people. thanks
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Old 12-11-2010, 01:58 AM   #17
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Why did they ask to search his truck? Age?
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he's 21 ,good kid never been in trouble. i've always told the kids to ask why they want to search and to tell them no if it was not a good reason. they never do ,they always say go ahead.this is the second time in 2 weeks one of the kids was checked my youngest[17] sons truck was searched and he was frisk by a local last week when he got home i checked him out no signs of impairment no smells in the truck just did'nt fully stop at a stop sign ,i'm starting to think it,s abuse of power of the ones to timid to say no. They never pull me out and search me . i recon if they were of color they could yell profiling . I hope when they get older they will start to stand up for there rights.
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i would file a formal compaint with the officer, its ones like that that dont fully understand nor care to understand the laws they are supposed to uphold that give the good officers a bad name, so dont let that jack leg officer ruin your boys impression of officers hold his hand and help him file a complaint and try to help make sure the officer does his job rite next time and doesnt violate someone elses rights tommrow
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Where did this happen? Did he get a ticket, why did he get pulled over? Never let them search the auto.
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