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Old 12-29-2009, 06:02 PM   #11
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Can you tell this subject is dear to my heart?

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Orion45 (12/29/2009)Initially, I was excited at the prospect but after reading about it being afranchise, Ibecame somewhat less enthusiastic. The problem I have with franchises istheir lack of individuality. The food preparation is gearedto a broad segment of the population and nota specific one. As a franchise owner, you're not a chef but a distributor of food which is essentially prepared at a central location. Rather than eating at franchises, I prefer to explore the independent restaurants that frequently serve one or two of the best dishes I have tried anywhere.quote"

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For example, those familiar with theNew Orleans/Chalmette area must have eaten at Rocky & Carlo in Chalmette.A hole-in-the-wall if there ever was one but theirpo'boys, muffelattas, and wop salads were superb.

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In my opinion, I just don't think a franchise can deliverthat "je ne sai quois".
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Orion45 (12/29/2009)Those familiar with theNew Orleans/Chalmette area must have eaten at Rocky & Carlo in Chalmette. A New OrleansBud's Broiler hamburger back in the 60's and 70's is another example.
It has been along time sincethis boy heard "Rocky and Carlos" down in the parish spoken. I have wondered how they faired since Katrina. Have not been there since the late 70's and early 80's.

And Bud's Broiler, simple but great, not only the burger, but how about those chile dogs, and the fries, all at a reasonable cost.

The one thing I miss is the food, great food, on every corner. Why can there not be be great food here, we are close enough. Heck, even Mobile has some god food on the corner, but not here. No Way.

Why??
went to rocky n carlos a couple months ago. still great. roast beef po boys still drizzle down your arm. mac and cheeze still made by italian grannies out back. still topped with gravy. everything is great. my 12yo had never been there and on his own went to ask who the manager/owner was at the cashier. he came over and brennan told him how much he liked the food and thanked him for a great experience. the mngr had never been told that by a yungin b4 so he gave him a r/c tshirt. very nice. and btw, since the katrina remodel it feels a little too "new" in there. on the outside its still a hole in the wall. but all the appliances and tables are new on the inside. kinda takes away that old delicatessan feel, but still worth the trip. we usually either start or end there on way to nawlins to continue the food fest.

sorry to derail but had to comment on above. and no, i wouldnt like a franchise. i know copelands wasnt very reasonable, but they didnt succeed. their food was ok and service sketchy. location was great, so did pensacola not want cajun cookin??? i do miss the big easy downtown at palafox/wright st. now something like that would be welcome imho.
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Orion45 (12/29/2009)Initially, I was excited at the prospect but after reading about it being afranchise, Ibecame somewhat less enthusiastic. The problem I have with franchises istheir lack of individuality. The food preparation is gearedto a broad segment of the population and nota specific one. As a franchise owner, you're not a chef but a distributor of food which is essentially prepared at a central location. Rather than eating at franchises, I prefer to explore the independent restaurants that frequently serve one or two of the best dishes I have tried anywhere. For example, those familiar with theNew Orleans/Chalmette area must have eaten at Rocky & Carlo in Chalmette.A hole-in-the-wall if there ever was one but theirpo'boys, muffelattas, and wop salads were superb. A New OrleansBud's Broiler hamburger back in the 60's and 70's is another example. Now they have several locations in the New Orleans area. Also, the original Randazzo's Bakery in Chalmette.....the best king cake - period. To me cajun cuisine is something that is very individual. For instance, shrimp remoulade or crawfish etoufee recipes abound but that special recipethat takes your taste buds to nirvana are few and far in between. Sometimes, all it takes is a minor variation in preparing the roux. In my opinion, I just don't think a franchise can deliverthat "je ne sai quois".
I completely understand what you mean and I do share your concerns. This style of food especially varies from cook to cook and place to place. I am very interested to see how the New Orleans store is doing with its toughest critics because lets face it, people in KY and OH arnt exactly experts in the fare.

However, the concept is to do exactly what you said, bring quality cajun food to everyone. Its not a place that youre going to bring your in-laws from New Jersey to eat when they are in town. What it is, is a place that you can duck in real quick from the office, get a big bowl of jambalaya and back at your desk during your lunch break. All for about the price of a 6" sub. And let me tell you, its better then a cold cut!

As a saving grace, the franchise owner grew up in Southern Louisiana and is also still the head cook. The food is not outsourced. He started out with his own sit down hole in the wall restaurant. After some real success hedecided tospread his grandmother's recipes to as many people as he can.Heensures a product that is high in quality and consistent!
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Tom,

Here's a link for you.

http://neworleans.citysearch.com/pro...urant_bar.html

My wife, a native from da parish, still subscribes to the St Bernard News. Sadly, I recently read that Rocky (Rocco Tommaseo),the last of the two orginal owners, died in Aug 2009. Carlo died in 1995.However,Rocky and Carlo's is still alive and well in da parish.

Here's another link:

http://blog.nola.com/brettanderson/2..._but_neve.html

Some photos to help you down memory lane:







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Orion45 (12/29/2009)Initially, I was excited at the prospect but after reading about it being afranchise, Ibecame somewhat less enthusiastic. The problem I have with franchises istheir lack of individuality. The food preparation is gearedto a broad segment of the population and nota specific one. As a franchise owner, you're not a chef but a distributor of food which is essentially prepared at a central location. Rather than eating at franchises, I prefer to explore the independent restaurants that frequently serve one or two of the best dishes I have tried anywhere. For example, those familiar with theNew Orleans/Chalmette area must have eaten at Rocky & Carlo in Chalmette.A hole-in-the-wall if there ever was one but theirpo'boys, muffelattas, and wop salads were superb. A New OrleansBud's Broiler hamburger back in the 60's and 70's is another example. Now they have several locations in the New Orleans area. Also, the original Randazzo's Bakery in Chalmette.....the best king cake - period. To me cajun cuisine is something that is very individual. For instance, shrimp remoulade or crawfish etoufee recipes abound but that special recipethat takes your taste buds to nirvana are few and far in between. Sometimes, all it takes is a minor variation in preparing the roux. In my opinion, I just don't think a franchise can deliverthat "je ne sai quois".
I completely understand what you mean and I do share your concerns. This style of food especially varies from cook to cook and place to place. I am very interested to see how the New Orleans store is doing with its toughest critics because lets face it, people in KY and OH arnt exactly experts in the fare.

However, the concept is to do exactly what you said, bring quality cajun food to everyone. Its not a place that youre going to bring your in-laws from New Jersey to eat when they are in town. What it is, is a place that you can duck in real quick from the office, get a big bowl of jambalaya and back at your desk during your lunch break. All for about the price of a 6" sub. And let me tell you, its better then a cold cut!

As a saving grace, the franchise owner grew up in Southern Louisiana and is also still the head cook. The food is not outsourced. He started out with his own sit down hole in the wall restaurant. After some real success hedecided tospread his grandmother's recipes to as many people as he can.Heensures a product that is high in quality and consistent!
I apologize for the unintentional Rocky & Carlo's derail and wish you the best of luckin your endeavour.My wife and I will certainly drop inshould you decide to go ahead with the project in Pensacola-Destin area. Keep us posted. :letsdrink
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Orion, no problem!

Well there is a problem, now I'm hungry!

I'm still waiting to see how the brand will do in N.O. If it does good I may just have to make a trip down there and scope out some spots in a month or two. Im pretty familiar with the area and I have some places in mind but any suggestions would be great!
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Well I just got off work and stopped by a local location to eat. I just found out that there are now six stores opening up in the N.O. area!



Food was great as usual and man Im stuffed! I had a BIG bowl of Drunken chicken on top of rice with a side of garlic bread, not bad for a total of $5.75 after tax!



As for service, I guarantee you that my store, if I go through it, will have the BEST service there is. I will be there from open to close ensuring everyone that comes through the door will leave with a great experience.
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Having been if the restaurant business myself,,, I know it is location, location, location, good food, good service and a great first experience. You might want to find out how much volume the owner of the corporation can handle before anything else,,,, ex. He has to many stores opening at once and can't handle it by himself so he hires others to do his work and the quality starts slipping. Or how much in depth he looks into potential franchise owners,,, which is a crucial point of a new franchise venture's. This is just a thought the Pensacola Dog Track will be having a poker room opening very soon,,, I know they have a restaurant and several kiosk on the top floor, but nothing like you would be offering. Might want to check with them to see if you could lease a space for a period of time,,,, could be a good way to get your eats out to the public, withoutputting a whole bunch of $$ on a place all your own. Again just a thought.Wish you all the best.
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And then there was the original Buster's down in the qwatah, back in the '50's and '60's. Good solid cajun and cafe stuff.
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