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Old 08-24-2011, 10:40 PM   #31
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OK, when you get bit,What is the best first aid treatment for the snake bite?
Take yourself and the snake to the hospital?
Don't get bit lol, there's not much you can do.if you do get bit call 911 stay as calm as possible the faster your heart rate the faster the venom will spread keep the bite area below heart level don't try to suck out the venom and don't cut the bite area don't wrap it with a tourniquet(unless is a coral snake or cobra)if possible bring the dead snake with you.if your miles in the woods with no help make peace with god and pray you can get out and to the hospital.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:19 PM   #32
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Copper head not coral snake.I deal with snakes on a fairly regular basis if you pick them up they can and will spray venom in an attempt to disable the attacker and escape
Nice to know when handling one. I usually handle the venomous ones at the end of a hoe handle.

I misread the specie and I apologize, but the info is nice to know.C2
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I have read some newer guidlines that say not to use a tourniquet because it cuts off circulation but you can wrap a bandage snugly above the bite. Also the normak keep calm, bite below your heart and the other stuff.

Oh, Yeah. Also heart that a stun gun can help destroy the protiens that make the posion bad. Old bird hunter I know carried one and used it on his dogs a couple of times. Never lost one but sometimes a snake administers a dry bite so who knows.
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Do the dogs ever come back after he treats them for a snake bite? Just wondering....
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Both the cotton mouth and copper head are of the same gensus so juveniles look very similar a way to tell them apart is that copper heads have a hour glass shaped pattern over there backs and cotton mouths have a zig zag pattern. proper identification is important if bitten it could mean the diffrence between a few days or a week or more in the hospital as cotton mouths are more venomous than copper heads keep in mind a copper head can "spit"venom up to 6 feet

BTW its a cotton mouth
Have you seen a copperhead spit venom, because that is very unusual. Cobras can spit because they are elapids or "fixed fang" snakes. Copperheads are from the viperidae family or "hinged fang" group and for the most part all viper fangs curve toward the throat making it difficult to spew venom forward. Also snakes value their venom very much that's why many times they will "dry bite" to try to scare off a would be predator while saving it's venom. (Although rattlesnakes do it less frequently than other snakes.) I'm not doubting it, just as someone that studied herpetology in college it would be really cool to see a viper display this behavior.
It's Agkistrodon Piscivorus (All species are the genetically the same, the color differential is like the difference between a muddy water redfish and a clear water redfish)
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Definitely a young Eastern Cottonmouth. And if you had to choose which one to get bit by, choose the copperhead - bad, bad wasp sting compared to the venom of a cottonmouth. Cottonmouth has larger delivery systems, larger venom sacks and tissue destroying venom. Of course the best way to avoid being bitten is to leave them alone. lol More people develop complications to the anti venom than you would imagine. Doctors are hesitant to administer it unless the bite is "bad" (causing complications). Lots and lots of allergic reactions to anti venom.
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Oh and copperheads do not have the ability to spit venom, so not sure what was going on there. If you see a spitting copperhead again, try hard to catch it alive - it will make you a lot of money being the only one on the planet. ;-) If bitten by a copperhead or cottonmouth just stay as calm as you can and go to the hospital. Without an allergic reaction it would be very rare to die from either species - tissue damage, amputation is possible but death from these snakes would be very rare without an allergic reaction. Corral snakes are another matter. Good thing about them is they have such a small mouth and poor venom delivery system that a "bad" bite is rare. If you are unlucky enough to get that venom in your system you have problems - very similar to cobra venom and bad news. As for dogs getting bit by copperheads and cottonmouths. My labs are stubborn when they come across snakes and have been hit many times. They swell up and ignore it. Of course I get them in for some benadryl and antibiotic for infection but a dog dying from a bite from either would be headline news (now if your dog weighs 2 pounds that is another matter but I do not really consider anything smaller than a guinnie pig a dog). We lived in MS for a bit with a shaded pond behind our house. Those stupid dogs seemed very good at finding young cottonmouths and getting bit. That pond was a snake magnet and we moved away from there when we had our first child.
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I was once bitten by a rattlesnake just below the knee.

I was in the country with no telephones etc, but I had heard to cut and bleed would take care of the poison. So I cut and bled.

I cut and bled so well, that when I finally got to see a Doctor several hours later,, he told me that I did more damage with the pocket knife than the snake did.C2
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I was once bitten by a rattlesnake just below the knee.

I was in the country with no telephones etc, but I had heard to cut and bleed would take care of the poison. So I cut and bled.

I cut and bled so well, that when I finally got to see a Doctor several hours later,, he told me that I did more damage with the pocket knife than the snake did.C2
Ouch - Diamond back or timber or ? Either way, bad bite. Those snakes pack a punch and have the large caliber fangs of the snakes in North America. Hope everything turned out ok for you.
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