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Old 05-13-2011, 11:52 PM   #11
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"Whyworry" you mentioned Mike Murphy. I have read "The Lone Survivor" (encourage all to read by the way), and that dude went through hell and back twice over. However, the word "hero" has been tossed around so freakin' much, it almost has lost it's true definition......in my humble opinion. Now, freaking things that the SOF folks go thru are leaps and bounds by millioniums what "we" typicially go through. Not to take anything away from Murphy, as ain't no freakin' way I'd last for a milisecond (my spelling is horrible) with the man given the situation he and his team mates were in. So, in my mind, I see heros everyday, including my wife, who do what has to be done - sacrificing for the cause. I'll tell ya one thing tho......dudes with the nads to do what they did a few weeks back broke a BIG foundation of a process that has been a pain in our ass for a while. For them to perform as they did might be heroic, but in my humble opinion once again, we're just doin' our job. No heroism expected. Didn't know if this thread was intended to head this direction, but just went that way......
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Old 05-13-2011, 11:58 PM   #12
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I see names and photos of heros serving in Iraq and Afghanistan during the McNeil Lehrer roll call on PBS.
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:08 AM   #13
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Now I have foot in mouth syndrome. Marcus Lattrell has the book "The Lone Survivor", which I've read. I'm buying "Seal of Honor" by Michael Murphy tomorrow to read. All inserts of Murphy need to reflect Lattrell in my previous post. Dude is a great american like many others, just overcame unbelieveable circumstances. Apologies for those I may have offended by my error......
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:19 AM   #14
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:04 AM   #15
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My grandfather is my hero and the person I look up to the most, Colonel John Livingston O'shields retired army. I have personally seen him give the London Fog jacket off his back to someone less fortunate. If I could be half the man he is..........
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:24 PM   #16
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As stated above, the term hero has been thrown about so much it has lost a lot of its meaning.
To me, a hero is someone who makes sacrifices for family and friends without asking for anything in return. Someone who does the right thing even when no one is looking. Lots of these around. Lots on this forum.
A super hero is someone who risks their life for someone else, often more than once, possibly for someone they don't know. Lots of those too - look at the rescue teams, military, police and fire departments. Giving up one's life for others, or taking the risks that could end one's life, wow, that is something.
Modern day rock stars, movie stars, professional atheletes and their ilk are just pretenders. There are exceptions but not many. One was the man, whose name I can't remember, who quit a professional football team to serve with the Rangers and was killed.
So that others may live.........
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Corporal Pat Tillman was the man who left the NFL to enlist and serve with the Army Rangers. I admire what he did - leaving a lucrative sports career to serve his country - but he is not a hero under my definition. His story is tragic because he was killed by "friendly" fire under very suspicious circumstances.

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Old 05-16-2011, 06:37 PM   #18
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Oliver North

The US should have listened then, 1987.

He was asked by a senator during the hearings with limited imunity:


'Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?'


Oliver replied, 'Yes I did sir.'


The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, 'Isn't this just a little excessive?'

'No sir,' continued Oliver.

'No. And why not?'

'Because the life of my family and I were threatened.'


'Threatened? By who.'
'By a terrorist, sir.'


'Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?'


'His name is Osama bin Laden.'


At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued.

'Why are you so afraid of this man?'


'Because sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of.'


'And what do you recommend we do about him?'


'If it were me I would recommend an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth.'


The senator disagreed with this approach.

It's scary when you think 24 years ago the government was aware of Osama bin Laden and his potential threat to the security of the world. I guess like all great tyrants they start small but if left untended spread like the virus they truly are. Olive North was convicted, and later it was turned over.

It took Great courage to stand up to the US Senate, tell them as he did, and the suffer so much as a result of his position and honest truth.

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Rooster, your account of Ollie North is wrong.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:25 PM   #20
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Corporal Pat Tillman was the man who left the NFL to enlist and serve with the Army Rangers. I admire what he did - leaving a lucrative sports career to serve his country - but he is not a hero under my definition. His story is tragic because he was killed by "friendly" fire under very suspicious circumstances.
Well you're a prick under my definition.
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