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Billybob+ · 07-14-2013, 02:40 PM

I know this has probably been beaten like a dead horse but forgive me for missing it.

I'm looking for someone who KNOWS the answer and can provide PROOF such as a State or Federal document.

what constitutes a charter?

I think many on here spit expenses with the boat owner (Gas, bait, ice, launch fee, etc) does splitting of expenses constitute a charter? What if the Owner shares in none of the expenses. For instance the owner plus 4 people go, they split the expenses 4 ways with the owner going for "free" (Not really, he/she has the expense of the boat)

Chris Phillips · 07-14-2013, 02:47 PM

It's pretty simple actually, just goes by the term "for hire" so if it was friends and split expense then the captain wasn't for hire.

Billybob+ · 07-14-2013, 02:49 PM

sounds simple enough, where can I find state or US law to PROVE that

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Originally Posted by Chris Phillips

It's pretty simple actually, just goes by the term "for hire" so if it was friends and split expense then the captain wasn't for hire.

jim t · 07-14-2013, 02:55 PM

I think "technically" if the Owner doesn't chip in a fair share it could be considered "for hire".

A Charter Captain or Boat License is required to carry paying customers (where a fee is paid directly or indirectly) for the purpose of taking, attempting to take, or possessing saltwater fish or organisms.

http://myfwc.com/license/saltwater/c...shing/charter/

I say "technically", but you could argue wear and tear on the boat and motor is the Owner's "fair share" I guess. I'd be okay doing that on somebody else's boat.

Jim

Deeplines · 07-14-2013, 02:59 PM

Post this in the Ask FWC. He should have the info.

MrFish · 07-14-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Deeplines

Post this in the Ask FWC. He should have the info.

That section is no more.

panhandleslim · 07-14-2013, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billybob+

I know this has probably been beaten like a dead horse but forgive me for missing it.

I'm looking for someone who KNOWS the answer and can provide PROOF such as a State or Federal document.

what constitutes a charter?

I think many on here spit expenses with the boat owner (Gas, bait, ice, launch fee, etc) does splitting of expenses constitute a charter? What if the Owner shares in none of the expenses. For instance the owner plus 4 people go, they split the expenses 4 ways with the owner going for "free" (Not really, he/she has the expense of the boat)

Billy Bob,

Why do you need this information? Might help quoting you the law you need.

RockB · 07-14-2013, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim t

I think "technically" if the Owner doesn't chip in a fair share it could be considered "for hire".

A Charter Captain or Boat License is required to carry paying customers (where a fee is paid directly or indirectly) for the purpose of taking, attempting to take, or possessing saltwater fish or organisms.

http://myfwc.com/license/saltwater/c...shing/charter/

I say "technically", but you could argue wear and tear on the boat and motor is the Owner's "fair share" I guess. I'd be okay doing that on somebody else's boat.

Jim

Doesn't matter if the owner pays a "fair share" or not. Technically if the owner gets compensation directly or indirectly, captain has to have to have a license. Not to say it doesn't happen every day of the week somewhere or that it is right. Just answering the question.

At the same time, I can't remember of ever hearing anyone being ticketed or prosecuted for splitting expenses.

Deeplines · 07-14-2013, 03:26 PM

Ok guys, in black in white.

Look up public law 103-206 section 507. Signed into law under President Clinton.

Deeplines · 07-14-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFish

That section is no more.

Damn, that didnt last long.

07-14-2013, 02:40 PM	#1
Billybob+ Senior Member Grouper Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 691	What constitutes a "Charter" I know this has probably been beaten like a dead horse but forgive me for missing it. I'm looking for someone who KNOWS the answer and can provide PROOF such as a State or Federal document. what constitutes a charter? I think many on here spit expenses with the boat owner (Gas, bait, ice, launch fee, etc) does splitting of expenses constitute a charter? What if the Owner shares in none of the expenses. For instance the owner plus 4 people go, they split the expenses 4 ways with the owner going for "free" (Not really, he/she has the expense of the boat)

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Chris Phillips Senior Member Grouper Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 780	It's pretty simple actually, just goes by the term "for hire" so if it was friends and split expense then the captain wasn't for hire. __________________ Captain Chris Phillips (850) 449-5555 www.hotspotscharters.com

07-14-2013, 02:55 PM	#4
jim t Neptune calls me "Daddy" Grand Slam Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 9,050	I think "technically" if the Owner doesn't chip in a fair share it could be considered "for hire". A Charter Captain or Boat License is required to carry paying customers (where a fee is paid directly or indirectly) for the purpose of taking, attempting to take, or possessing saltwater fish or organisms. http://myfwc.com/license/saltwater/c...shing/charter/ I say "technically", but you could argue wear and tear on the boat and motor is the Owner's "fair share" I guess. I'd be okay doing that on somebody else's boat. Jim __________________ Always buy rope with cash... Last edited by jim t; 07-14-2013 at 03:00 PM.

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Deeplines Senior Member Grand Slam Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lillian Woods Posts: 6,211	Post this in the Ask FWC. He should have the info.

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Deeplines Senior Member Grand Slam Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lillian Woods Posts: 6,211	Ok guys, in black in white. Look up public law 103-206 section 507. Signed into law under President Clinton.

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