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Sounds like another way to gather bs data, it's not a stocked trout pond, there are no fences or shorelines to keep them in the area, and there are plenty of predators that eat the red snapper. What happens if less than 5% of tags are returned, do they assume there is a 95% mortality on rec released fish? This is another grab at our fisheries.
I'd like to see a tag program where you are given a number of snapper tags (like a doe or alligator tag) with your license and then you keep them at your discression at any time of the year but only until your allotted tags have been used.

Oh well my voice doesn't matter
 
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The state of Alabama is making a push to take over reef fish management. Why would you assume that they want to help NMFS/NOAA?
 
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If you look at this study, DCNR giving out free Seaquilizers, mandatory reporting, etc. You could surmise that the state is gathering as much real data as possible. Maybe to make a push for regional management? Maybe just to have accurate stock assessments of state waters? Either way, hard numbers are what we need to fight NMFS/NOAA. They aren't going to take our word for it.
 
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Hey, that's just my opinion, your free to have your own. I sold my gulf boat 8 or 9 years ago when they started phasing out the recreational angler, and so did my buddies. I don't get out there much anymore, so the commercial guys succeeded in driving me out and off their fish. The good news is I been watching all those Alabama wild caught commercials and it looks like if we ever want a red snapper, they'll sell us one. Lol.... and if they won't them Texas boys on TV will. Sad....and frustrated ! I've lost faith with our government on fish regulation.
 
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I caught a tagged fish 2 years ago and called the number on the tag and the number was no longer in service. You would think if they dumped all that effort into research that they could keep a phone number. Said $150 reward so I kept it. Fish was 16" and I released a ton of bigger fish that day just to keep that one.
 
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I hope every one gets caught and turned in, that would show a zero mortality rate on catch and released snapper. The issue is I can't imagine nor should you - that more than a handful of tagged fish will be caught and even fewer will get returned, this will "show" (and prove much to the grin of the Feds) that many snapper die after being released, undersized, out of season, whatever the cause of release. Did you know that they factor estimated year round mortality in to the recreational quota?? I think they guess at 50% mortality and that is 50% of a made up number based on number of saltwater fishing licenses sold. Basically it's all bs data and far fetched science, but I am very greatful that the snapper and most reef fish populations seem to be getting stronger by the year and we are able to go get them when we can. I just don't want to see faulty methods taking away more of the already chopped quota.
 
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From what I have read and been told there are multiple benefits from recovering and reporting the tags.
One study proved to the feds that ARS do not migrate like there bogus research said.
A lot of red snapper where caught years later in same vicinity and even the same spot.
Which completely negated the feds false studies.
In Alabama we use to have to carry our vent tool. (syringe)
Now they think the survival rate is the same by just poking the bladder.
It showed the difference between j hook and circle hook survival rates.
A lot of the fish were tagged on there private study reefs from what I understand.
I am not saying they cant somehow turn the research around on us but it has done a whole lot of good so far in Alabama. IMHO
 
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