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Old 05-09-2011, 08:24 PM   #21
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Please refer to my post about the right questions being asked. It's in general discission section. Don't get me started on the increased levels of soluble lead on public reefs caused by sinkers and jigs being broken off. Areas of the country have forbidden lead shot for duck hunting as it settles to the bottom and the ducks ingest it causing health issues fot the ducks. All in all our stewardship of our resources needs to be less reactive and thought out more thoroughly as to what consequences we may have created long term.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:55 PM   #22
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I expend a lot of my time and resources to go fishing because I enjoy it so much. I also eat what I catch and since the spill I have noticed no change in the fish that I have brought home. Some people are catching fish with lesions etc but I haven't seen any in the fish I've caught or seen caught. It may be due to the fact that I almost always fish to the South and East of Destin. Later this month I'll start running out to the Nipple down to the Spur and with luck I'll keep catching healthy good eating fish.
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:25 PM   #23
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I understand the commercial/recreational allocation but question how the recreational catches are quantified. Fishing out of PC I have never myself experienced a FWC officer or anyone else monitoring catches at any ramp I have used nor have I known anyone else that has experienced the same. I have been stopped by FWC by boat, which will check bag limits and size limits, but never have recorded weight or length.

On different note does it really make sense to complete stock assessments by unit (i.e. # of fish) then set the regulations based on volume/weight (i.e. # of pounds)? I also acknowledge that a healthy fish population needs a distribution that includes larger fish, but the recreational regulations (2 per person) as well as economic factors such as fuel prices likely result in few actual trips and also encourage anglers to release the smaller fish in hope of landing larger fish. I think when the limit was 4 per person this was much less likely the case. I rather see the size limit eliminated and the focus being on anglers keeping the first 4 fish they landed, rather than the biggest 2 which likely results in multiple fish being hooked, handled, vented if necessary, then released.

So is the recreational allocation actually being reached each year; perhaps, but who really knows? I do think we can generally agree that the red snapper population is I good as most of us can remember. I personally have been fishing the gulf recreationally for 20+ years and I have to thing back the late 80's to recall red snapper being as numerous as today, though I would say the average size may be larger now.

Regarding the oil spill, it is my understanding there has essentially been no scientific proof that any fish, healthy or sick has had signs of hydrocarbons. In the PC area, we essentially had no real effects from the oil spill other than tarballs, some of which made it to the beach at times. Anyone from the Texas coast will tell you that tarballs on the beach have been an everyday occurance for their entire lives. I realize that there is the possibility that closer to the horizon site, there is a greater potential for spill related effects, but I have an issue with the one size fits all aproach that GOMFMC often implements as they did last year during the spill.

I do agree 100% that the important thing is the public is not misinformed on the effects. I still today prefer gulf seafood over seafood from anywhere else in the world whether that be finfish, crustacean or mollusk. Anyone who has seen a fish farm cest pool in person will certainly think twice about choosing that over 'wild caught' seafood, unless they simply do not have a choice based on geography.

I also am very much aware that there are liberal interests that simply do not want anyone to fish and they will use incendents like the horizon spill as an excuse to advance their agendas and I believe that this occurred to some extent last summer with the closures. Unfortunately these same people cause the commercial and recreational anglers interests to get misaligned when the media picks up on thier questioning such as the safety of gulf seafood after the oil spill. For example, as a commercial angler it is vital that the public be assured the fish you catch and deliver to market is safe, even if it means temporary closures of gulf area waters. However, as a recreational angler and lifetime GOM resident, I feel confident in eating anything I catch after I clean and essentially examined it- very much similar to discarding an oyster after shucking it when you can tell it may be bad. Peronsally I have yet to have any issues with any fish I have caught since the horizon spill and I feel 100% comfortable eating all of it and I am tired of the government trying to protect me from myself or at least operating and making rules under that guise.

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Old 05-10-2011, 07:13 PM   #24
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Thanks neuby , was a good read . the Toxins they dumped on the oil concerns me just as much.
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Old 05-10-2011, 08:40 PM   #25
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Obviously some legit folks are catching some fish with some issues, however....I work on boats in orange beach one of which(6pack boat) would catch/release snapper on knocker/sow rigs and they are so thick you can pretty much walk on them daily you could even catch them on topwater on large public wrecks with a cane pole. probably was releasing/venting 20-60 fish per trip on about 20 trips on that boat and had zero with lesions or discolorations...I am on another boat (multi-passenger) boat now and have hit the sw of OBA to 40 miles twice for beeliners etc...and have also had zero incident...I did a catch a scamp yesterday who had an off pattern(not necc unusual) but caught 2 more who were fine. Have also caught quite a few juvi snappers on the newer spots or while fishing for beeliners.My point is obviously these fish are not everywhere (yet anyways) and perhaps rare...Noone I know has caught one and we all talk

so...

Like the whale that died in the oil slick:

"Still waiting on the results"


Always seems to be the answer, why exactly does it take so long to get the results???? Again I know these are legit reports, I have been fishing here for near 40 years 25 of those in the GOM and have never seen the discolorations as in the pics and have some concern but I am not ready to call the spill the culprit of it just yet...

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Old 05-10-2011, 09:12 PM   #26
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Ive seen nothing wrong with any of my fish. And they taste GOOOOD to.
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:36 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by Best Defense

Bottom line - any fish that you kill should be examined completely (liver, body cavity, ect...) if you find anything unusual please call me @ (850) 982-7092 (850) 982-7092 d i will help you get your fish tested by someone that has not been bought by bp.

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Old 05-11-2011, 12:17 AM   #28
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http://www.wkrg.com/gulf_oil_spill/a...-2011_6-33-pm/


I just got done saying this and even saw that camera guy today ...Also

I heard they got the test results back from the discolored fish, horrible disease:

Feinbergscrewedmetheleoma

Good news it it seems to be located just off pensacola, the rest of the gulf is fine and you have to be a commercial fisherman to fill a tub of 'em


Just kidding, but hey when you have released 1000 healthy snapper in 30 days and aint seen sh#T , you got to wonder if that is what is causing itAND in this case I hope that is what it is....Im going to call the
media tomorrow with a livewell/pen full of red tail and no tail pinfish on there last fin and see what I can get stirred up.

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Old 05-11-2011, 01:37 AM   #29
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The red tail and no tail Pin Fish sounds like they have been left in the bait pen too long.
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The red tail and no tail Pin Fish sounds like they have been left in the bait pen too long.
Duh - /sarcasm

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