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Old 06-01-2019, 12:47 PM   #1
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Recent newspaper article noted a diver had removed the flag from the Oriskany. Don't know about the legality of such but if legal I too would like a souvenir. Anyone know a diver and what would they charge?
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Old 06-01-2019, 01:59 PM   #2
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The flags on the Oriskany are privately maintained and supplied by local captains as a gesture of respect to the vessel and the people who served on her. I did not see the article. Removal of anything from the Oriskany is inappropriate, because many of the items attached to or left aboard the vessel are memorial items for people who died on the ship, or served and have since passed away. I don’t know about the Legalities of the of removing items, but I would not want to be the person caught doing so. I also could have no respect for someone who displayed such an item and bragged about their souvenir.
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Check w/ Strike Lines, he may have a souvenir division from the deep!
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Old 06-01-2019, 03:19 PM   #4
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Why go through all the trouble? Just go break off an antennae at the naval aviation museum or steal a flag from a veterans cemetery and save yourself some time.
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The flags on the Oriskany are privately maintained and supplied by local captains as a gesture of respect to the vessel and the people who served on her. I did not see the article. Removal of anything from the Oriskany is inappropriate, because many of the items attached to or left aboard the vessel are memorial items for people who died on the ship, or served and have since passed away. I don’t know about the Legalities of the of removing items, but I would not want to be the person caught doing so. I also could have no respect for someone who displayed such an item and bragged about their souvenir.

I'm with you. In fact the following is an opinion I sent to local newspaper that hasn't been printed as of yet.


"I was somewhat dismayed to read that the Flag on the Oriskany had been removed. By whose authority? Can one just go and remove items from the ship? Although the display underwater may be questionable, it did “wave" over a ship and it's crew that had been thru hell. During the Vietnam war the Air Wing suffered the most losses of any Air Wing and than there was the fire. As a reference, so you know where I am coming from, I was there, in an Air Wing on a sister ship during that time frame. At least, those that removed it, preserved it, but I certainly hope they replaced it with another one so all those that paid the price continue to have the American Flag over them. If not shame on them!"


As an aside, and what I didn't say was three of my squadron mates names are on the wall. I, personally, was responsible for packing up the personal belongings for two of them and sending them home to their widows. I have 200 combat missions over Vietnam during 1966-1968, same time frame as the Oriskany, when "hell" was in session and our targets were debated all the way up to the President of the United States. I found the removal of the flag unfortunate and reading about it in the paper prompted me to write to the paper. Santa Rosa Press Gazette. The article noted the flag was going to be displayed. However it was taken 3 years ago and this was the first public revelation. Regardless, the flag shouldn't have been taken.


I posted here to try to get a feel for what was legal-figuring folks on the forum could fill that in.



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Last of the gunfighters. I recently took the midway tour in San Diego. Those airwings have a rich history.
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[QUOTE=markw4321;7947828]Last of the gunfighters. I recently took the midway tour in San Diego. Those airwings have a rich history.[/QUOTE


Your are right. I have a patch for "The Last of the Gunfighters." We were a Mach 1.65 fighter but had 4 twenty mm cannons as well as sidewinders. For the Vietnam War they added wing pylons so we had to carry bombs as well. When we launched with two 2000 pounders we had to be in afterburner to make sure we could fly away. When we dropped those you could see the earth sending the shock waves thru the soil. Attached is one of my 500 carrier landings, not the best, no port main gear and had to go into the barricade. LOL


As an aside, the F8 in the museum I flew 4 times according to my log book. I tell my great-grand-children my fingerprint are in the cockpit.
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Last of the gunfighters. I recently took the midway tour in San Diego. Those airwings have a rich history.[/QUOTE


Your are right. I have a patch for "The Last of the Gunfighters." We were a Mach 1.65 fighter but had 4 twenty mm cannons as well as sidewinders. For the Vietnam War they added wing pylons so we had to carry bombs as well. When we launched with two 2000 pounders we had to be in afterburner to make sure we could fly away. When we dropped those you could see the earth sending the shock waves thru the soil. Attached is one of my 500 carrier landings, not the best, no port main gear and had to go into the barricade. LOL
A barricade landing will get your heart rate up I bet. My airwings were all hornets with ACLS. Different game these days.

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