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Old 02-08-2011, 10:50 PM   #11
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I am not defending BP... I am throwing this POTUS and his admin slap under the duals on the bus!

I use the airline industry as a comparison since they have had many crashes and not all were unavoidable! In recent years, we have seen several episodes of the same air frame having issues in similar fashion. The airline that owns them has them inspected and moves on.

We have had issues where engines of a similar make and model have problems within a close time frame of each other... the manufacturer has the planes FLOWN in to be inspected...

So why don't the POTUS say "NO AIR LINE FLIGHTS IN AMERICAN AIRSPACE UNTIL WE GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS!!!"?

Far more people are in the seats of air craft at any second in the skies of america than could possibly be immediately harmed from an oil spill...

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yeah i dont like him either but he is the lesser of the two jack A-ss this time. i understand you frustration with the airline industry but comapiring human lives lost to enviormental damage is not fair we have no idea of the long term health impacts of this spill so who can say which will have a higher death toll the airline industry has the shock value plane crash death are sudden and on CNN but long term we will have to wait and see. I agree on one point shut them down if they are cutting corners send them packing this country can no longer support business that are only in it for the short term monutary gains. we need companies willing to hang on for the long haul and rebuild this country
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Has anybody seen a report on what happened to the BOP on the Deepwater Horizon? It has been recovered.

Was the "crimper" trying to crimp through a collar?

It seems adding a second BOP at a distance that would keep it from trying to crimp a collar too would be an easy if expensive fix.

Redundancy of Redundancy Department.

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I feel that we should drill in the gulf where other countries are able to drill. Kinda like a 'who gets it first' thing. Save the stuff on our soil for later. Otherwise countries that could care less about our ban are claiming rights and sucking up the oil in our waters.

I am sure there is more to the picture than what we see. Some one some where who is calling the shots is getting paid either way. There is a master plan, we are just the stepping stones to get here.
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I feel that we should drill in the gulf where other countries are able to drill. Kinda like a 'who gets it first' thing. Save the stuff on our soil for later. Otherwise countries that could care less about our ban are claiming rights and sucking up the oil in our waters.
This is not happening. It past time for new permits to be ordered, but other countries are not laying claim to our leases and drilling on them.
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:03 AM   #16
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Good article. It's important to take the broad view of America, and not be defensive about the POTUS. ppl in the current admin are using the permitting process to get votes in 2012.

Everyone here is for clean seas and a healthy environment. The issue is whether we can drill without spill. I thought the admin's slogan was "yes, we can" and not "no, we can't."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110204/...ts_republicans
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Good article. It's important to take the broad view of America, and not be defensive about the POTUS. ppl in the current admin are using the permitting process to get votes in 2012.

Everyone here is for clean seas and a healthy environment. The issue is whether we can drill without spill. I thought the admin's slogan was "yes, we can" and not "no, we can't."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110204/...ts_republicans
Great article link Anthony and THANK YOU for all of your help in getting the word out....
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:09 PM   #18
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Good article. It's important to take the broad view of America, and not be defensive about the POTUS. ppl in the current admin are using the permitting process to get votes in 2012.

Everyone here is for clean seas and a healthy environment. The issue is whether we can drill without spill. I thought the admin's slogan was "yes, we can" and not "no, we can't."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110204/...ts_republicans

And if slogans corrected safety measures then this statement might make sense. Simply saying we can safely drill doesn't mean we actually can. You want to know how I know this? Prior to the spill everyone said it was safe. We were happy with that answer up until we found it that it wasn't safe.

Is there proof that the companies doing the drilling have made the proper adjustments to deal with or better yet prevent a spill in the future?

Unfortunately the liberal media is not showing us the proof that the safety measures have changed. Do you have this proof?
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"Safe" is a "releative term"... BP screwed the pooch BIG TIME on this well and we are seeing the affects. But had they followed suggestions and adhered to protocols in place... she wouldn't have likely been a leaker!

Same with the valu-jet case I used as a reference!

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"Safe" is a "releative term"... BP screwed the pooch BIG TIME on this well and we are seeing the affects. But had they followed suggestions and adhered to protocols in place... she wouldn't have likely been a leaker!

Same with the valu-jet case I used as a reference!

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So, the question remains.

I agree with the removal of all drilling bans and allowing all companies who, up until the spill, were operating within the confines of existing regulations. No reason to punish companies that were doing it correctly. But BP should be forced to jump through hoops to ensure they are safe, then they should have to jump through them all again.
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