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Old 02-28-2010, 10:54 AM   #71
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Nice work...just a thought, but couldn't you make it cheaper and more easily replace the pontoons if neededif they were made out of some sort of plastic/inflatable/etc. of some type?
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:04 AM   #72
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Wharf Rat (2/28/2010)Nice work...just a thought, but couldn't you make it cheaper and more easily replace the pontoons if neededif they were made out of some sort of plastic/inflatable/etc. of some type?


Do pontoon boats need their pontoons replaced? Not that Ive heard of.

Well my pontoons are STRONGER than BOAT pontoons. Why would they need replacing when mine are stronger and glide through the water versus going 35mph?



There is a number of reasons not to do those option:



Inflatable... ?? Not tough enough. Who wants to pop their pontoon with a hook or gig or sharp barnacles or rocks?



Plastic... I cant weld plastic. I cant fabricate plastic. I cant mold plastic. I cant do anything with plastic. Yeah maybe someone can and maybe I'll license it to someone who can, but I cant.



Aluminum is plenty tough enough. It allows me to make the whole thing from aluminum, super strong, and to weld it all together.



If someone is going to drag it across asphalt repeatedly and wear a hole in it, then they really don't have a lot of sense. And like I said above, mine are stronger than boat pontoons, which people beach on the sand all the time with hundreds of pounds of weight
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Old 02-28-2010, 01:45 PM   #73
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Personally, I think it's almost perfect. There are only two things I would add:

1. Some reflective tape for night opps and a socket of some sort tomount a flag so the jet skiers andboaters can see it better.

2. I definitely see a use for wheels in some applications, but I would make them an option and removable, therefore reducing the weight when not needed at all, as well as the ability to flip up out of the way.

Another use no one has mentioned yet, is to transport SCUBA equipment. I used to dive some when I was in my 20's (early 70's), but none of us had a boat. We usually dove around the Johnson Beach rock jetties. The only way we couldget there was drive (when it was legal) my 2WD Ford PU on the sand trails are far as it would go, and then carry our gear to the beach, put it in an old Navy one man survival raft, and tow it along the water's edge to the rocks.

Needless to say, we were some tired puppies by the end of the day an we finally made it back to the truck. That raftcouldn't be pulled worth a crap on the sand.

If this can in fact be towed by a kayak or canoe, I think it would be ideal for divingequipment.
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Patoz (2/28/2010)Personally, I think it's almost perfect. There are only two things I would add:



1. Some reflective tape for night opps and a socket of some sort tomount a flag so the jet skiers andboaters can see it better.


Easy enough, its got a bracket for purpose of adding whatever. Its meant to be clamped to, or drilled through, without affecting structural integrity



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2. I definitely see a use for wheels in some applications, but I would make them an option and removable, therefore reducing the weight when not needed at all, as well as the ability to flip up out of the way.
That was my thought. Wheels are an option, some people will want them, some wont.





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Another use no one has mentioned yet, is to transport SCUBA equipment. I used to dive some when I was in my 20's (early 70's), but none of us had a boat. We usually dove around the Johnson Beach rock jetties. The only way we couldget there was drive (when it was legal) my 2WD Ford PU on the sand trails are far as it would go, and then carry our gear to the beach, put it in an old Navy one man survival raft, and tow it along the water's edge to the rocks.
Awesome idea!



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Needless to say, we were some tired puppies by the end of the day an we finally made it back to the truck. That raftcouldn't be pulled worth a crap on the sand.



If this can in fact be towed by a kayak or canoe, I think it would be ideal for divingequipment.
It most certaily can, I will be posting a video this week!
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Old 02-28-2010, 05:54 PM   #75
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I would stay away from all the super cheap materials like inflatables and plastics. Its strength and versatility make it most valuable to me and you would lose that by using them. You could add something for durability for the pontoonson sand and such but I doubt you would need it. One part I'm having a hard part envisioning is how I would use it on a pier and other areas. Call me crazy but what if the pontoons were removable? Just some idea's, either way,I want one.You may want to consider going in with a fewpeople to really get it rolling becauseI think this is going to be a big one for inshore fisherman and it won't be long before people are trying to create products to compete with it. Remember imitation is the greatest flattery!
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:27 PM   #76
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Awesome invention!! Don't know about setting a generator in it with water splashing up through the bottom? Or wading around next to that much voltage. Might be dangerous.
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Death From Above (2/28/2010)Awesome invention!! Don't know about setting a generator in it with water splashing up through the bottom? Or wading around next to that much voltage. Might be dangerous.


yeah, I thought about that, figured you would probably want to set it in a tote, for splash protection.



I know some people use a tote anyway with batteries and such, but ive had my tote crack before and fill up with water, because they just arent meant to handle the weight. A tote sitting on this thing would keep the generator from getting wet, and keep the tote from failing. Or just use a battery and dont worry about it!
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The heat/exaust froma generator would melt a tote. Will make a great 12V float platform.
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tofer (2/28/2010)I would stay away from all the super cheap materials like inflatables and plastics. Its strength and versatility make it most valuable to me and you would lose that by using them. You could add something for durability for the pontoonson sand and such but I doubt you would need it. One part I'm having a hard part envisioning is how I would use it on a pier and other areas. Call me crazy but what if the pontoons were removable? Just some idea's, either way,I want one.You may want to consider going in with a fewpeople to really get it rolling becauseI think this is going to be a big one for inshore fisherman and it won't be long before people are trying to create products to compete with it. Remember imitation is the greatest flattery!


Not a crazy idea, and I agree with you about the cheap materials. Im not trying to build the cheapest thing on the market, im trying to build the highest quality most versatile thing on the market.



For Pier, I am envisioning wheels that attach and a handle that attahes. Why make the pontoons removable? It would look weird, but wouldn't get in the way really. Ultimately though, I want it to be good at its primary purpose, towing through the water for wade fishing, crabbing, floundering, etc. If that means it isn't a good solution for the pier, oh well. Thats what pier carts are for. But I do think I could make it a decent substitute in a pinch!



I made a video of it being towed by a kayak today. Thanks private pilot! I had 5 or 6 onlookers going "WTF"??? And they all had very very positive comments. One guy commented how he had definitely never seen anything like that before!



As far as ramping up production I am trying to figure out how to do that now! Any suggestions ARE EXTREMELY APPRECIATED. Where does one go to find someone who can mass produce something like this? I want to sell TENS OF THOUSANDS, not dozens!, not hundreds!



I should have pricing the next day or two. I would love to hear some input onto much you think would be an appropriate cost. Honest answers on what you would be willing to pay for it ( vs, what you would like to pay for it, we all know we would love to pay as little as possible )
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Death From Above (2/28/2010)The heat/exaust froma generator would melt a tote. Will make a great 12V float platform.


Got a good point... I guess I could make a light weight aluminum liner/splash guard. Or just stick with 12v! which would be really really handy
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