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Old 06-20-2014, 10:24 AM   #1
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Right after WWII when my dad returned home....he and his buddies fished on head boats and caught snapper/grouper on 1/2" cotton mainline with three smaller hook drops and a 12 ounce chunk of Lead..(hand lining) with cut bait...live bait was not needed!! Now, we have to use fluorocarbon leader(often light like 20 lb. test), smaller hooks, live bait,etc.----and they still might have lockjaw!! Theory: A tremendous amount of fishing pressure.
In th' 60's and 70's....a GOOD dove shoot was when a good shooter would pick up 50 to 80 birds in an afternoon(they weren't concerned much about game wardens) as Alabama only had about one per 2 counties and th' fine wasn't but about 25 bucks. The past 20 years....be thankful if you can pick up the limit!! Theory: We don't have any small grain fields dotting the landscape like we used to have...and more pines are planted where peanuts, soybeans, corn used to grow....so...local doves have adapted to feeding in a much more scattered fashion rather than congregating in one field which they can't depend on year after year...and forget about the northern birds migrating in and have to scrounge for food!!
Killed my first Turkey in 1968....they gobbled there heads off! Now, often when they hit th' ground..gobbling is over. Theory: Increase in predators(coyotes), hunting pressure, way more hens available....Ole Tom has learned th' more he keeps quiet th' less chance of death!!

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Old 06-20-2014, 11:24 AM   #2
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True. I remember after moving here in 1984, we would snorkel and spearfish around the Bob Sikes bridge and the water was much clearer then. Things have changed just since then.
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Do y'all remember when mullet didn't know the EXACT length of a cast net rope? Hell, I'm convinced they know the difference between a man with a net and a man without.

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Great points by everybody, but you have to add that tackle makers have to sell tackle. We need 75 different colors of grubs? I use 3, and 1 of those more than the other 2 combined. I use 2 crankbaits and 1 gold spoon, 1 gold spinnerbait for Reds. The rest of it is a museum collection. They could make plastics a lot tougher than they are, but then they wouldn't sell as much. Bet on the right day, you can still catch them with that 1/2" rope.
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50's when grass beds were in Pensacola Bay, there were shellfish. I talked with superintendent of Big Lagoon a few years back and he said that he used to see a few scallops but not in a while.

60s we were catching coolers full of red snapper. Most were not as large as what I have been seeing lately. Our boat equipment makes it easier to find bottom structures also.

Tackle has amazed me. When I shop I depend on a lot of you to give me an idea what might work and then I have to rely on what I think might work. Years ago there was no forum to get info.
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I guess they weren't concerned about shooting 80 doves/day or sinking the boat with as many fish as they could catch every trip because the resource to them seemed unlimited.

I bet you never heard him rant about getting pushed off a spot by 5 other boats. There a lot more players in the game now than there were in the 1940's.
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30 years ago I ate lots of greasy food & fished in thunderstorms, I also talked bad about others, and pretty much only cared about myself...... everything with a brain learns, changes, and tries to pass it on to their offspring!
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Do y'all remember when mullet didn't know the EXACT length of a cast net rope? Hell, I'm convinced they know the difference between a man with a net and a man without.

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Now that right THERE is FUNNY....th' lowly mullet has become educated!!
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Now that right THERE is FUNNY....th' lowly mullet has become educated!!
fully became convinced that the deer in my club learned my smell and work schedule.... once when I took off early I'm pretty sure one of them called my office and asked my wife if I was there.... she said they just laughed and hung up when she told them I was hunting... sneaky turds
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The average height of man is also 3" taller.

Dove/qual reduction is due to the controlled burns in the forest and fire ants.

The fishing is still as good as it has been in many years, Just have to fish the spots that are not public. I cant imagine the amount of fish that are on of these wrecks that have yet to be noticed.

Cobia running the beach used to look like schools of mullet. I heard that you could literally pluck the big ones out the bunch.
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